[Ba Issue] Fix Your Own Problems - Stop Blaming Other People

Why don’t you forget about all that for a moment and spare a thought for the gross indignities we 'Brits' and other expats suffer every time we have to negotiate Murtallah Muhammed Airport. ...Read the...

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[Auspicious]

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REF. UncleTisha @ #15

Respects, UncleTisha.

I did not miss the part you highlighted in the author's piece, Brother. As a matter of fact, I knew that was where you were coming from. But I think you made the mistake of assuming that he was mourning the loss of the privilege (of access to the undeserved and unsolicited special treatment) and that he approves of the existence of such privilege at the expense of the majority. All that was obvious to me from your initial comments here.

But, unlike you, reading him, I saw that he disapproves of it all but chose to mind his business by going to and fro Nigeria as an expat out to make a living for himself, as long as he is not inconvenienced - which is all he can do! He doesn't feel entitiled to the privilege as much as he wonders "what a country!" Nigeria is, where abnormality seems to be the norm. If Nigerians choose to do stupid things, who is he to tell them otherwise as an ordianry foreign citizen passing through?

You probably will NEVER see it my way, Brother, but I beseech thee, to try and look and see the stinging power of sarcasm as used by the author to rile you and I as free-born citizens to do something for our own country too, instead of focusing so much on injustice without! We fail to see how much outsiders yearn so badly for us - how much of our potential they see, and how they can't understand how we continue to fail as a possible African superpower!

UncleTisha, here you are, your usually very gentle and controlled self, getting unusually mad at this Brit. Yet, your reaction is hardly as charged as this in your reaction to the blatant chicancery perfected in your beloved state of Ekiti a few days ago, where you suing for peace for peace's sake. That is the thing that I don't understand about us Nigerians. We only appear to want to burst a nut at small, useful yabis from outsiders, but hardly react to bigger crimes at home.

Ee seee t'o se ri bee, Bodaa Mi?

Auspicious.

[Kenn]

Originally Posted by Auspicious

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Hi, Mr. Kenn.

While I don't wish to get into endless debate with you or anyone else here, may I make the following clear:

1]. I definitely DO NOT suffer any deficiency in self-esteem. My ability to tolerate the author's views for the many truisms therein is NOT out of a "lack of self-esteem" as you appear to suggest, but is actually a worthy strenght of character that enables people like me to look inwards for my own good.

2]. There is no such thing that fits into "spitefully disrespec(ful)" of Nigerians in that article. If anything, it is the kind of things we say to one another about our country everyday. Yours is a case of convenient, blatant exergerration out of an inability to take useful criticism because of your mmmmmassive ego.

Auspicious.

Auspi dear, thank you for making clear that you do not suffer from deficiency of self-esteem and thank you for proclaiming your “strenght (sic) of character” which, according to you, enables you to look inwards for your own good. Of course, I must not forget to also thank you for diagnosing my “case of convenient, blatant exergerration (sic) out of an inability to take useful criticism because of (my) mmmmmassive ego”. I certainly will make sure to go for treatment before it kills me.

Aha, so what do I really have to say about your substantive intervention on Mr Clement’s behalf here? Not much, except to say you have managed to speak from both sides of your mouth in the name of being objective and discerning people know that already.


CHEERS!


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[Odinaka]

The writer comes across as insulting, dubious/mischievous(for trying to downplay the bad treatment meted to Ayo), and crappy in logic.

I don't care about the "bitter truth" he is trying to point across.

[omo naija]

Thank you for enlightening us of some of our shortcomings, Mrs. Rebrand i hope you are reading what this Oyibo write, this is a major problem that must be sort out if we are thinking of bringing in the so-called foreign investors or tourists...We may blame this writer for his fortrightness, but he wrote the truth, our immigration officers have no shame, they collect bribes in the open, my foreign friends witnessed this shame, when we were in Nigeria... I hope the government will do something about this nonsense...anyway, our problems are the powers that be, most of them are all corrupt, what do we expect from lowly immigration officers, that must meet a quota or else, he will be transfer to a less lucrative post.
I don't know how we are going to dig ourselves out of this shithole, but i believe, if our vote counts, that will be the beginning of remaking and rebranding Nigeria.

Yes Mr. Writer, Nigeria does have problems in all ramifications, we Nigerians can never stop blaming British incursion into that part of Africa, the British must share the blame for the political setting in Nigeria, this has been the bane of our underdevelopment, but i will leave that for another day.
Mr. Writer, marrying a black woman does not make one less racist, i have met enough in my lifetime, so please don't throw that i married a black woman thing in next time, it won't wash, have a nice day.

MAY GOD BLESS NIGERIA AND AFRICA. AMEN

[Kenn]

Originally Posted by Simbili

......not to mention a dire need to see a shrink for the required corrective form of anger management therapy, or the adequate titration of some ineffective pharmaceutical regiment for a definitive diagnosis of an exotic, mutant form of pre-exiting, exclusive, genetically-predisposed form of bipolar disorder.

Tut-tut-tut, rats can squeak, but not speak! You've been watching too many movies of men in long coats! Okay...okay...I know...you’re talking from experience, I know. But, be happy! You’re cured already, or are you? Is this a relapse I see from your garbled offering above? Oh dear....

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[Auspicious]

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Hi, Lord Dem (KBE)!

In the same way, those "Tories" you referenced may very well tell you the same thing when next you walk into "Her Majesty's Courts" to seek justice for the likes of Ayodeji Omotade, that is, "if you don't like it, get out!". Of course that would not be a nice way to treat loyal, tax-paying resident or citizens like Omotade and the rest of y'all out there in Elizabeth Country

And, really, it cheapens the case we have against past injustices under colonial overlords, if all we do whenever there is an argument involving any nonentity (I use that word not as an insult) foreigner is to hold him liable for the sins of his fellow citizens who came before him to pillage Africa and elsewhere. A Burger fight might yet evoke colonial pasts at this rate.

If the Brits are propping up corrupt leaders, what are we doing to stop these Brits and their so-called props? And for how long are we going to allow the Brits to (allegedly) prop goons in our homelands? I don't think we are doing anything to stop them. Neither do I believe we are anywhere near ending the so-called propping of corrupt leaders. We are willing slaves for the most part.

We should stop telling lies about being "taught" corruption. And even if we were taught corruption, err, well, when are we gonna start debriefing ourselves of the bad knowledge? Abi na British juju dey control us all the way from Buckingham Palace? Must we ape them even in 2009 A.D? Abi na only us dem colonize for dis world? Odas don seize dieh kontri remake am, we remain dieh dey whine. We go tey dieh.

Meanwhile, back to the issue...

Auspicious.

[FoxCatcher]

Hymmmmm, when a lion is brought to the ground; even ants climb over him.

I was ready to blast the writer despite my acceptance of the truth of some his statements; till I read Auspy's enlightening post. Therefore I swallow my bile

However, I cant see any reason an average Brit has to disdain my Nigerian heritage.

The rot in Nigeria was designed and established by the British before independence; it has been sustained till date by Brit economic/political interests. The massive corruption and ineptitude in our nation today is partly a by-product of Brit/American national interests. That's why every sign that a forward looking Nigerian is likely to rise to political limelight has always been shot down by the western alliance (e.g., MKO).

Britain's interests is best served by inept and corrupt Nigerian leaders who look up to British political and economic players for the support and legitimacy they lack at home. This is despite the diplomatic double speak western nations publicly display in the media during times of crisis, when they actually are the bulwarks sustaining the present status quo.

Underwriting Corruption: Britain’s Role in Promoting Corruption, Cronyism and Graft by The Corner House (The International Development Committee's Inquiry into Corruption) [2000] established beyond doubt Britain's pre-eminent role in the conception, incubation, and export of corruption to developing nations.

It is therefore a measure of gratutious insult added to still smarting injury for a Brit to contemptiously hold up the 'consequences' of his nation's sustained corrupt sabotage and economic occupation of my country as justification for asking me to be quiet in protesting my rights in civil society.

So Nick, 'thanks' for your opinion However, kindly remove the beam in your Brit eyes be4 trying to diagnose the splinter in our Niaja eyes.

Ciao

[dem]

Auspy,

Let's just say that we're poles apart on this one. Clearly my reading and understanding of the author' article and intent is very different from yours.

Later.

[Auspicious]

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REF. Kenn @ #21:

You need not thank me, Kenn Dear, forI was not doing you a favor worthy of any form of thanks. No, not at all. I simply sought correct your errorneous impression of my level of self-esteem. I am a proud a motherfcuker who doesn't take suffer people who over-reach themselves with me kindly. And, in my opinion, the Britisher hasn't done anything like yet.

I may not be able to say that is the case with our exchanges so far. But I ask that you let us both respect ourselves and not pretend to know how much we have in our individual resevoirs of esteem. May I also take this time out for attempting to measure your ego-level; it is not my business, but I was only responding to your pretending to know my level of self-esteem.

I may be speaking, or have spoken, from both sides of my mouth, but better my so-insinuated fake attempt at balanced reasoning, than shooting cottonlike cannons all in one direction from the mouth. There is nothing wrong with saying what anyone knows already and if people indeed know these things already, they shouldn't be making the same mistakes again and again.

We all rejoice at Omotade's triumph. That is how it should be; justice must be seen to be done everywhere. But God in heaven knows there's nothing wrong with imploring us to adopt the same no-holds-bared standards when fighting similar injustices on the home front. And if it will take a foreigner to deal us stinging sarcams to do so, then, by Ogun the Yoruba God of Iron, so be it!

Auspicious.

[MsWoman]

Let me clap for you Mr. Clements! Kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa-kpa! The way we used to do it in school when we were young! Ask your Ghanaian wife…she may know.

"I have a Ghanaian wife and a mixed race son!" So we should bring out Gulder and asun or suya in celebration!! Alakori! What, you think that exempts you from being a bigot? See this one! First of all, it has been purported that the bulk of those mask-wearing, cross-burning morons who consider themselves better than other races, have probably all had no less than two black women in their lives and if they are yet to achieve it (for fear of going to jail for rape), it is strongly utmost in their minds. Again, it corroborates their screwed up, psychotic, pyshiatric-medication-needing mentalities and personalities, of which you certainly meet the requirements. You are not only racist, you are also ignorant of the mere and simple facts of life! You feel like because you are raking in a high salary (thank God for the oil you are stealing), all of a sudden, you can open that your ugly mouth, and see injustice and justify it!

Better make sure your wife does not come near me for I will give her a 101 reasons why she needs to take her son and run away from you as fast as she can! Little does she know that she is simply gratifying a we-re (madman’s) sexual desires. I would like to go longitudinal on you and see where she and her son will be 5 years from now after your stupid contract ends! Probably dump her in Nigeria or Ghana and tell her to find her way after settling her with peanuts! Is that not what your counterparts have done? Screwed up the lives of so many young girls…and left them with children to fend for! They are all over the place in Naija! Once in a while, you find the ones who do se-ge (give you a taste of your own medicine) for you! Good for those ones! Ori won kpe (dem get sense)! And the airport officials are “pigs”….so what are you and your type?

But I digress. So because Naija has issues at the airports we should not fight injustice when it is dealt us both in Naija and elsewhere! Ooooo-kaaay! So it is people like you that I meet abroad who feel like you are already doing me a favor by letting me be in your country so if you choose to treat me bad, I better just accept it and keep shut! Please explain, because I don’t see what happened on that BA flight that could have warranted an arrest or the kicking off of 100 other passengers on board the dam-n flight. Explain it to me a hundred times, and I still won’t get it! Yeah, continue with that convoluted sense of thinking and hopefully it won’t land you in jail like it did the Craig’s list killer! You know that sense of I am oyibo so I know it all, and I can do whatever I want and no one dare challenge me because I am oyibo and I can even kill and get away with it and no one will even think it is me as kpe I am a med student se you know! I can do all these things, because it is the fault of my victims,...yes it is their fault because they are women, or of another race or color, etc. Oh yes, we know now that your a*ss is going to spend the rest of your life in jail or die by the guillotine! Okay, continue with that craziness and warped sense of thinking. It is a matter of time before you meet your match. I used to work with people like you when I was in Naija! Some of you were just plain stupid, rude, arrogant and thought your father owned the company…some of you had common-sense and either left that arrogance at home or were just legitimately good people. But again, that way that you think is part of your problem and it is what will quench you no lie!

@Auspi:

Na the persin who dey fie dem go do that one for in Naija! Me, I don fight my own well, well! As per passport issue, okay, et alors? Na crime to hold 2 passports? The first time I traveled with 2 passports same thing…I was traveling alone and they said they would seize one passport or take me to jail and I triple-dared them to seize my passport or as much as touch me. Intimidation na game! Try it with me and I will flip the script on your ar-se! Second, another trip, one said he would flog me at the airport! Again, I told him if he tried it he would end up in Gitmo! All he could say was that I was a rude person and me too told him that if he respected himself, he won’t have harassed me for no reason!

I nor agree sha how this dude’s representation makes any sense. I don’t think he has anything valid to say. It’s okay sha, because next time any we-re harasses me at any Britico airport, I will certainly come over here to report it, heck I will post it on BVS – British Village Square if there is one and call the officials at the airport pigs, etc. The use of the term alone is racist! Pig?! That is the most racist-oriented derogatory term anyone could ever use on anyone else.

Finally, like someone said, whether we need to fix borehole or electricity or Nepa, or whatever, bottom-line is justice was served at the British courts. The law does not mandate that someone’s house must be in order for him to be absolved of a crime that he has wrongfully been accused of. That is my issue. I, MsWoman am not the one harassing innocent people at the airports, heck, I am also harassed too! But that doesn’t allow an airline to treat me unfairly because someone I don’t know or represent, decides to stress their compatriots out!

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by dem

Auspy,

Let's just say that we're poles apart on this one. Clearly my reading and understanding of the author' article and intent is very different from yours.

Later.

Your positions is very much appreciated and respected, Dem.

As long as nobody is using my expressed view to measure my level of intelligence or self-esteem, it's all good.

Every man has a right to an opinion and as much as I am convinced about mine, I ready to accept that others, you included, may not see it my way.

With Respects,

Auspicious.

[anonimi]

Originally Posted by Auspicious

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Hi, Lord Dem (KBE)!

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If the Brits are propping up corrupt leaders, what are we doing to stop these Brits and their so-called props? And for how long are we going to allow the Brits to (allegedly) prop goons in our homelands? I don't think we are doing anything to stop them. Neither do I believe we are anywhere near ending the so-called propping of corrupt leaders. We are willing slaves for the most part.

We should stop telling lies about being "taught" corruption. And even if we were taught corruption, err, well, when are we gonna start debriefing ourselves of the bad knowledge? Abi na British juju dey control us all the way from Buckingham Palace? Must we ape them even in 2009 A.D? Abi na only us dem colonize for dis world? Odas don seize dieh kontri remake am, we remain dieh dey whine. We go tey dieh.

Meanwhile, back to the issue...

Auspicious.

India was colonised by the same Brits and they gained independence only 13 years before we did. They have more people with complex socio-cultural issues yet they are light years ahead of us, although they still have not fully resolved all their problems. Big China was also brutally colonised by Japan.
Ok India & China are too far away and by the way they are not really black people they are only yellow or maybe chocolate, right
Now look at Ghana and Botswana, even Benin Republicwith little or no resources for examples/comparisons of respect for law and order
I wrote somewhere else on this forum that until we learn to accept that someone criticising us (individually or collectively) is not automatically our detractor/enemy/ practising Pull Him Down syndrome, we will continue to grope in darkness (physical and figurative)

[Shoko Loko Bangoshe]

Leaving aside the nature of the criticism for a moment, there seems to be a sliding scale of acceptability of critics of Nigeria, with (typically) white people at one end, and Nigerians at the other.

I understand the argument that a Nigerian criticising Nigeria is kind of acceptable. He is criticising himself, so the criticised person doesn't feel so bad since "the rain is falling on both of us".

But what if the Nigerian isn't just criticising to point out a truth - what if he really DOES hate Nigeria and Nigerians with the kind of passion that you see in true racists? Doesn't this negate the Nigerian-ness of the critic?

[Big-K]

A friend of mine was recently stopped for speeding. Of course he said it was due to the fact that he was DWB (driving while black)..My question was "Were you actually speeding?"..

Later

[I Love Nigeria]

FURRRK and Double FORRRK Nick Clemens and his Nigerian sympathisers!

The logical extension or extrapolation of Nick Clemens illogic is that Nigerians should endure indignities as a group and bear such with a smile, after all, things are not perfect in Nigeria!

Nigerians should no longer be entitled to fair and human treatment?

AND, some Nigerians here with damaged sense of themselves seem to be saying Amen to Nick Clemens' nonsense?

FURRRK and Double FORRRK Nick Clemens and his Nigerian sympathisers!

Paul Adujie
New York, United States

[liloldlady]

Please could somebody tell me what Mr Clemens wrote in that article that is untrue.

Maybe its like when somebody is criticising their mother, the friend is not supposed to join in.

The man did not say anything that is untrue.

I am aware, that at the end of their shift, Immigration and Customs officers, get together to share the proceeds of the days extortion...who did that money come from...Spirit?

[I Love Nigeria]

So, as Nick Clemens would have it, because a great number of Britons are reputed to have bad dental hygiene, no Briton should be allowed to buy and use a good toothpaste any where in the world?

Nick Clemens' father's house has a leaking roof, and if Nick Clemens now rents a five star hotel, he is not allowed to complain if the roof of the hotel leaks? After all, his father's house has a leaking roof! Never mind that the riff raff called Nick Clemens actually paid for the five star hotel?

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Shoko Loko Bangoshe

Leaving aside the nature of the criticism for a moment, there seems to be a sliding scale of acceptability of critics of Nigeria, with (typically) white people at one end, and Nigerians at the other.

I understand the argument that a Nigerian criticising Nigeria is kind of acceptable. He is criticising himself, so the criticised person doesn't feel so bad since "the rain is falling on both of us".

But what if the Nigerian isn't just criticising to point out a truth - what if he really DOES hate Nigeria and Nigerians with the kind of passion that you see in true racists? Doesn't this negate the Nigerian-ness of the critic?

Where on God's Green Earth is Son of the Delta?

Auspicious.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by I Love Nigeria

FURRRK and Double FORRRK Nick Clemens and his Nigerian sympathisers!

The logical extension or extrapolation of Nick Clemens illogic is that Nigerians should endure indignities as a group and bear such with a smile, after all, things are not perfect in Nigeria!

Nigerians should no longer be entitled to fair and human treatment?

AND, some Nigerians here with damaged sense of themselves seem to be saying Amen to Nick Clemens' nonsense?

FURRRK and Double FORRRK Nick Clemens and his Nigerian sympathisers!

Paul Adujie
New York, United States

Hey Folks look who we got here!!!

IT'S PAUL 'I-LOVE-NIGERIA' ADUJIE!

Paul, look ehn, we love Nigeria, too.

And we heard you; you want to fcuk Nick Clemens.

Or, even better, you want to double-fcuk him tag-team.

Now, isn't that really what having "damaged sense of self" is?

I mean, why, is Nick Clemens that sexy in your Nigerian eyes?

Anyways, all man to his own Kponyon - oops I mean, his own Brokos.

PS: How is 'retirement', after all these years working with Baba to 'promote' Nigeria?

Auspicious.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by I Love Nigeria

So, as Nick Clemens would have it, because a great number of Britons are reputed to have bad dental hygiene, no Briton should be allowed to buy and use a good toothpaste any where in the world?

Nick Clemens' father's house has a leaking roof, and if Nick Clemens now rents a five star hotel, he is not allowed to complain if the roof of the hotel leaks? After all, his father's house has a leaking roof! Never mind that the riff raff called Nick Clemens actually paid for the five star hotel?

Now, that's a very sensible argument.

Thank You.

Auspicious.