[Article Comment]Obama My Brother The President, Again!

Rose · Sep 29, 2009 , 02:17 PM

Facebook did a poll asking if Obama should be killed, but I'm sure his administration will continue to state it has nothing to do with race whatsoever.

The disrespect he has shown to Gov. Paterson is something he'd never hand to the beleaguered Gov. Corzine because he knows it wouldn't go down well with whites. I'm glad the scales are beginning to fall where BO is concerned but treachery seems to come natural to him when it comes to dealing with people of African descent.

Bill Carson · Sep 29, 2009 , 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rose

Facebook did a poll asking if Obama should be killed, but I'm sure his administration will continue to state it has nothing to do with race whatsoever.

The disrespect he has shown to Gov. Paterson is something he'd never hand to the beleaguered Gov. Corzine because he knows it wouldn't go down well with whites. I'm glad the scales are beginning to fall where BO is concerned but treachery seems to come natural to him when it comes to dealing with people of African descent.

Rose,

Calm down for BO, the man is a Politician…….. with all Politician the world over, survival is the most important characteristics regardless of who is crushed in the process…... Gov. Paterson is just a component in the overall collateral damage wagon that will see BO safely into second term in office…..

Rose · Sep 29, 2009 , 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Rose,

Calm down for BO, the man is a Politician…….. with all Politician the world over, survival is the most important characteristics regardless of who is crushed in the process…... Gov. Paterson is just a component in the overall collateral damage wagon that will see BO safely into second term in office…..

That remains to be seen. What he did was reprehensible and will be used against him in ways you can't imagine.

I Love Nigeria · Sep 29, 2009 , 06:43 PM

Bill Carson The thing here is Brother Obama a.k.a Barack Obama's selective application of your here stated theory.

Governor Corzine is also, currently being seen as politically damaged goods for Democrats... wherefore, there is no love lost for Democrats in New Jersey and the Republican gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie, surpasses Corzine in public opinion polls and may succeed in dislodging the Democrats from government house, come November.

Your theory and rationale for Brother Obama would apply to any underlines with political baggage and liability? That should include Corzine and not just Governor Patterson and former Special Adviser on Green Matters/Environmental Issues to Brother Obama, Mr. Jones!

There is an emerging pattern of a double standard and selective application of your enunciated theory... as applied so far by our brother the president!

Rose · Sep 29, 2009 , 07:02 PM

@ILN, just as I thought...

Obama’s big Paterson blunder
Marcelo Ballve
28 2009 - 11:14 am

The White House stepped in it when it began to pressure New York Gov. David Paterson, a Democrat, to bow out of the 2010 governor’s race. As of now, Gov. Paterson’s decision to stick with his re-election plans creates a daily embarrassment for the White House, and a schism for Republicans to exploit. Last night, a panel on the Sean Hannity Show used the flap to play up Obama’s machiavellian streak and lack of party loyalty.

More than any other political incident of Obama’s first year, his betrayal of Gov. Paterson takes the mask off on the president’s claim to a higher ethical and moral standard in politics. The mistaken political calculus behind this has nothing to do with Gov. Paterson’s ethnicity or the fact he’s legally blind. It’s simply foolish for the Obama administration to let go one of its own when there’s so much partisan battling going on nationally.

In fact, trying to nudge aside Paterson, New York’s first black governor, may have already backfired politically within the Empire State. A poll of New Yorkers cited by David Gregory on Sunday’s “Meet the Press” found 62 percent of New Yorkers disagree with the White House decision to intervene. Not only that, but Rep. Charlie Rangel of Harlem also lashed back: “The whole thing to me was not presidential,” Rangel said to the Daily News. “It wasn’t good for the President, and it wasn’t good for the governor.”

With Democrats divided, Republicans will find it easier to retake this key governorship next year. If Paterson does ultimately step aside in favor of Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, the new candidate will have a hard time finding his footing with political blood on the floor.

It’s true Paterson faces abysmally low poll numbers. But he took the reins of the state’s governorship after former Gov. Eliot Spitzer resigned in the prostitution scandal, and just as New York’s economy tumbled into the abyss. Not only that, but Gov. Paterson faced an in-house mutiny in the state legislature. None of this is Paterson’s fault.

An economic recovery next year could have easily resuscitated his poll numbers. But now, New York’s fickle voters already have watched Obama hypocritically call Paterson a “wonderful man,” even after having signed off on his political death sentence. Next year, New Yorkers may turn aside from all the Democrats– Obama, Cuomo, even Paterson– in disgust.

http://trueslant.com/eliemystal/2009...tick-together/

Sep. 23 2009
Black on Black Crime: African-American Politicians No Longer Have to Stick Together

I Love Nigeria · Sep 29, 2009 , 07:21 PM

Rose Thanks a million!

The writer's analyses is right on points! And identical to mine. It gladdens my heart that it is not just me... as some here in NVS would like to think or rather believe!

I have no bile! I spill just the facts!

In fact, trying to nudge aside Paterson, New York’s first black governor, may have already backfired politically within the Empire State. A poll of New Yorkers cited by David Gregory on Sunday’s “Meet the Press” found 62 percent of New Yorkers disagree with the White House decision to intervene. Not only that, but Rep. Charlie Rangel of Harlem also lashed back: “The whole thing to me was not presidential,” Rangel said to the Daily News. “It wasn’t good for the President, and it wasn’t good for the governor.”

It’s true Paterson faces abysmally low poll numbers. But he took the reins of the state’s governorship after former Gov. Eliot Spitzer resigned in the prostitution scandal, and just as New York’s economy tumbled into the abyss. Not only that, but Gov. Paterson faced an in-house mutiny in the state legislature. None of this is Paterson’s fault.

An economic recovery next year could have easily resuscitated his poll numbers. But now, New York’s fickle voters already have watched Obama hypocritically call Paterson a “wonderful man,” even after having signed off on his political death sentence. Next year, New Yorkers may turn aside from all the Democrats– Obama, Cuomo, even Paterson– in disgust.

The writer, and I, have this uncannily identical resemblance even in expressing our identical opinions .... from "None of this Paterson's fault to presidential disapproval ... death sentence or nail on the coffin etc!

I think that sooner than later, more and more persons would discern Brother Obama's emerging pattern.

Thanks again, Rose!

M. Akosa · Sep 29, 2009 , 08:02 PM

Ah.... Bros Paul Adujie,

Please leave this man alone. Don't you know that first and foremost he is a politician and also a lawyer.

Of course, it seems natural to him to off load baggages, every now and again, shed damaged goods along the way.

Is he a Mother Theresa? that will do all things saintly, sin not, and stand by all needy and weaklings.

Rose · Sep 29, 2009 , 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by M. Akosa

Ah.... Bros Paul Adujie,

Please leave this man alone. Don't you know that first and foremost he is a politician and also a lawyer.

Of course, it seems natural to him to off load baggages, every now and again, shed damaged goods along the way.

Is he a Mother Theresa? that will do all things saintly, sin not, and stand by all needy and weaklings.

Please read up on this weakling he's been campaigning for and ask "what's the difference?"

Corruption arrests in N.J. hurt Gov. Corzine's re-election bid, thrill GOP
New York Daily News ^ | July 25, 2009 | David Saltonstall

Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:25:20 AM by Zakeet

New Jersey Republicans tried to hide their glee on Friday over a corruption probe that could send many Democrats to jail - and GOPer Chris Christie to the governor's office.

Christie, a former U.S. attorney running a strong challenge to Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine, wasted little time putting up a new TV ad touting his suddenly spot-on law-and-order background.

"I put corrupt public officials in jail - Republicans and Democrats," Christie said in the ad. "As governor, I'll make the same tough, independent decisions."

Left unmentioned was that Christie, who left his Justice Department post seven months ago, initiated the probe that led to bribery charges against dozens of political insiders, most of them Democrats.

The sweep is unquestionably bad news for Corzine, who was not implicated, but will have to explain how such wide-ranging corruption was allowed to flourish on his watch, experts said.

"It is huge," said Steve Adubato, Jr., a Jersey political analyst and co-host of a popular public affairs show, "Inside Trenton." "It now frames the governor's race very clearly around the issue of political corruption."

Auspicious · Sep 29, 2009 , 08:14 PM

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I bet that the Author of this article hardly gives a damn about Governor David A. Paterson - at least not enough to stick his neck out on his (Paterson's) behalf. If you interview this Author, there is the strong likelihood that he is about as informed about Governor Paterson's performance in office as the Chief Executive of the State of New York as any freelance hang-about is on the streets of Manhattan.

The point is that there is a heck of a good chance that this piece was motivated by no less a desire than the need to capitulate on a topic as inflammable as the one at hand, as it is with other noted instances by him, where he conveniently exploits popular themes as race issues or delves into to his usual anti-western psychobabble - all in a bid to boost his profile as an 'informed writer' on sundry issues.

The President of the United States, in this case Barack H. Obama (a Democrat), is the de-facto leader of the country's Democratic Party of the United States. Although he is not as involved in the day to day running of the Party, his support is nevertheless crucial - crucial enough for party members aspiring for elective posts to crave his indulgence at events as fundraising or campaigns and other events across the country.

In the case of a popular President as Obama, many hang-on to his coat-tails to make it through with the voters. Where his schedule permits, and the aspiring politician has enough of political capital to remain a fairly strong contender (amongst other important considerations), the President will come through with his strong support for such candidate. But where a candidatate may be a liability on the rest of the party (or the Prez himself), maybe not.

Such is the case with David Paterson. I doubt if there is a single Governor in the entire United States with an approval rating hovering at an incredibly low level of 17% - yes, seventeen percent! With a politically sensitive electorate as Americans, or New Yorkers for that matter, that is a huge drag on anyone - including whomever comes to town to campaign for such a person. And when New York has such at the head of the ticket come 2010 elections, incombent democracts should be prepared for surprises.

Mr. Paterson is a gentleman - a personable and nice man with a witty side to him. He knows, just as the White House knows, that it is up to him to stay on and fight to build on the extremely low points. The White House egg-heads, being the pragmatics that they are, do not want to take chances and have the Republicans make inroads into the Empire State. Hence their advice (and that's all it is!) for Paterson to step down so the far more popular Attorney-General Andrew Cuomo can head the ticket.

Every rational person out there understands and respects Mr. Paterson's insistence on remaining on the ticket in the race for Governor. It is entirely his right and everyone hopes he won't regret it. Alas, there are a small crowd who don't see it this way. On the one hand, we have people like this Author who desperately want to be seen as informed public persons with a grasp of everything under the sun, spurning out articles at a dozen-a-dime on everything that they have little knowledge about.

Then there is the other group - like that self-defeating minority within a minority of African-Americans to which Rose belongs. For them, anything involving a black man (or woman) naturally triggers a knee-jerk defense. It doesn't matter that public opinion of David Paterson's performance is at an embarrassingly low 17% - no! For them, it is simply a case of "we gotta help a brother (give us more of the same low performance)", forgetting that doing so only encourage low standards within the black community.

David Paterson still has his chance either to stay in the race or quit while he is 'ahead'. Eitherway, those of us who like him (just as much as the Roses of this world do) will still support him. What came from the White House was more of an advice than an order, which Mr. Paterson is totally entitled to accept or reject. There is very little need for the misplaced hullabaloo or the fake speechifications of a Nigerian Lover who loved to tell us that Olusegun Obasanjo was the best thing in Nigeria since Roasted Corn. Even Mr. Paterson isn't catching a hiffy over it, as the interviews below reveal!

Auspicious.

I Love Nigeria · Sep 29, 2009 , 08:50 PM

Auspicious You can rant and rage all you want.

If nothing else, I live in New York... besides, tons of people more intelligent, prominent and high profile insiders, within and and outside the state of New York and even members of other political parties have had cause to wonder about Brother Obama's choice in this chicanery regarding Governor Paterson.

The White House think Paterson expendable, but you see, it will be up to the electorate in the state of New York and not some inanimate carpetbagger and urchin such as Auspicious!

Governor Patterson is a fine gentleman, he has chosen to occupy the moral high ground. Patterson diplomacy should not be mistaken for a lack of panache.

Governor Paterson is sanguine in his assessment and his decision to remain in the race... if he persists, my prediction/forecast is that we New Yorkers will buck the trend against Democratic Party leader, Brother Obama, and re-elect Governor Paterson. I know however that the pressure on Paterson is great and that the presidential bad-mouthing of Paterson does no favors to him... as his detractors will be liable to point to the presidential disapproval etc.

Auspicious · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by I Love Nigeria

Auspicious You can rant and rage all you want..

Your little retort reads full of rant and rage than anything I submitted. So you live in New York, and? Of course everybody on Planet Earth should know you live in New York, not with you advertizing yourself as "New York-based (Obasanjo arze-leeka)". Being a resident of New York isn't a passport to rationality.

Again, if you were deaf the last time you heard it: what came from the White House was an admnotion - an advice, not the kind of Decree that your old Demigod of Otta (Olusegun Obasanjo) was in the habit unilaterally issuing while you hailed his moves all the way from your New York comforts.

Paterson is a fine man, and so are all the gentlepeople who have so far recommended what he has acknowledged but rejected - something he is absolutely entitiled to do. But he (and the vast majority of New Yorkers) don't need opportunists crying more than the bereaved.

Your opinion means nothing especially when they are recycled ones from those who can read the political temperature better than you can do in your wildest dreams. We Hope, We Pray, We Believe, that whatever happens, the State of New York remains nevertheless democratic. And, quite frankly, that is ALL that matters.

M'out of this stinking cocoon of shameless patronization.

Auspicious.

Rose · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:26 PM

Auspy, so what about the Governor's disappointing numbers...he shouldn't turn tail and run (like you would most-likely). Let him lose fairely and squarely in the primaries if folks are so sure he has no chance. Besides... Judas has his hands full as it is so why put his dishonorable nature on glaring display?

I Love Nigeria · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:34 PM

Auspicous numb-skull knucklehead! wrote:

.... what came from the White House was an admnotion - an advice, not the kind of Decree...

A not quite presidential admonition/advice which have been roundly condemned by all and sundry! It was tactless and distasteful and undignified.

Reasonableness and savvy, required that the White House maintained outward neutrality, at minimum, at the very minimum... instead of the flippancy, humiliation, disrespect and very public effort to undermine Governor Paterson

Auspicious In your ranting and rage... you also completely missed the comparative analysis of the public opinion poll numbers of Governor Paterson and Governor Corzine? And the disparity/dichotomy of reactions from the White House? You apparently have reading comprehension problem!

M. Akosa · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Auspicious

We Hope, We Pray, We Believe, that whatever happens, the State of New York remains nevertheless democratic. And, quite frankly, that is ALL that matters.

Auspicious.

Thank you, thank you. That's all that matters indeed. Nothing personal. Any democrat in control of New York state, is good enough for me.

Big thanks, Auspy. You've said it all.

Auspicious · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rose

Auspy, so what about the Governor's disappointing numbers...he shouldn't turn tail and run (like you would most-likely).

Let him lose fairely and squarely in the primaries if folks are so sure he has no chance. Besides... Judas has his hands full as it is so why put his dishonorable nature on glaring display?

Another Selfish Black Woman.

Who would rather the absolute blindness of her race-suffused worldview numb her better judgment - as usual, as always.

We thank God the likes of people who think like this are in the absolute minority in black communities across the United States.

Others say let's ensure we can make it ashore by allowing a healthier Captain steer the Ship, but they talk of "turn(ing)-tail and run(ning)"

They NEVER got it, and would NEVER get it, blinded by the very same insecure obstinacy that always left them at the ladder's rung.

Judas is not he who continues to exhort his own (by example) to dream beyond the stereotyped limitations - not on your life, Oh Black Rose!

On the other hand, Judas is that voice in your soul, that continues to make you doubt every good thing that isn't of your own type.

Auspicious.

Auspicious · Sep 29, 2009 , 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by M. Akosa

Thank you, thank you. That's all that matters indeed. Nothing personal. Any democrat in control of New York state, is good enough for me.

Big thanks, Auspy. You've said it all.

Thanks to You too, M.Akosa.

Might I add: "Any SMART, INTELLIGENT & VIABLE democrat.

We don't want to be like those who want black for black's sake.

Auspicious.

I Love Nigeria · Sep 29, 2009 , 10:31 PM

Auspicious Again, you completely miss the point

Your presumption that Governor Paterson is incompetent is not based on the facts or based in reality.

Even Mr. Obama would agree that Mr. Paterson inherited an abysmal and dismal state of affairs... as far as the economy in the state of New York is concerned.

Our great state happens to be the epicenter of all the seismic and cataclysmic economic meltdown... New York as the Financial Capital, of the the United States and of the World, NYS, took the brunt of the shocks of corporate failures on Wall Street... and so, no tax base/tax revenues for the state of New York... and then, huge numbers in unemployment. .. it is more than 10% in New York and it is more than 15% among African Americans... everyone who knows anything about these things... would tell the ignoramus Auspicious that Governor Paterson did not foist these on the state of New York!

AIG is in New York, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Bears Sterns etc were/are all New York based... as they are teething... they are not hiring or paying taxes!

Just as corporate failures of automobile companies in Detroit, Michigan, has ensured higher rate of unemployment in the state of Michigan... all these, are matters of public knowledge! Why would any sane person blame Paterson for these or presume his incompetence based on these happenstances for which Paterson or anyone cannot control?

nijalaw · Sep 30, 2009 , 12:17 AM

Nna man!!! all this Yankee biz no concern me for now. ILN, Auspy, Bill Carson, M.Akosa & Rose what's the take on the upcoming governship election in Anambra state coming 2010.
Is Peter Obi's approval rating too low & can he stand on the APGA ticket with all the controversy? Will Soludo be the PDP flag bearer. Will PDP snatch Anambra or will PPA make a suprise show. Will the Appeal court throw the spanner in the works by installing Governor in waiting Dr. Ubah? Will the state erupt in massive violence.

Rose · Sep 30, 2009 , 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by nijalaw

Nna man!!! all this Yankee biz no concern me for now. ILN, Auspy, Bill Carson, M.Akosa & Rose what's the take on the upcoming governship election in Anambra state coming 2010.
Is Peter Obi's approval rating too low & can he stand on the APGA ticket with all the controversy? Will Soludo be the PDP flag bearer. Will PDP snatch Anambra or will PPA make a suprise show. Will the Appeal court throw the spanner in the works by installing Governor in waiting Dr. Ubah? Will the state erupt in massive violence.

nijalaw, all of the above!