Univ. of Ibadan, Nigeria's Harvard, Missing Again from Top 200 Universities Global

Univ. of Ibadan and the Top 200 Global Ranking

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cdimkpa · Oct 10, 2006 , 06:14 PM

Indeed, like you stated, if the ranking is extended to the first 10k, no Nigerian university will be found. All we have now are glorified universities. I mean all, with no exception. The difference between South Africa and Nigeria is ever glaring, as at least 3 of its universities are on the list.

But the mere fact that there are conflicting ranking information in different websites puts some doubt in the ranking itself. Please see http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm for a different ranking of the first 500.

planet1899 · Oct 10, 2006 , 06:57 PM

Where did you see South African universities on the list?

cdimkpa · Oct 10, 2006 , 07:23 PM

@Planet 1899,

Where did you see South African universities on the list?
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Check the site that I provided above. You will find at least three South African Universities in the first 500. That is a more extensive ranking and it is the one I have known for more than 5 years now. It also ranks by continent, although Africa is not ranked per continent. There is also a different website for African university rankings for last years.

Abraxas · Oct 10, 2006 , 07:24 PM

Hi, my good friend Dr. Phil Tam-Al Alalibo!

Ehen, University of Ibadan is missing AGAIN from top 200 universities global ranking. And so , what?

What has the ranking of the University of Ibadan (UI) got to do with either the expedited impeachment of OBJ (and Atiku), or the accelerated evauation of Balogun Okikiolakan OBASANJO to his village villa in Owu?

My friend, seek ye first the eviction of OBJ from Aso Rock Villa, Abuja, and every other thing else will be added to it!

Muchas gracias.

Don Juan Carlos ABRAXAS (III)
(Sheikh Sadiq D'Fcuk of Sakkwato & Dubai Emirates)
(Director of Operations, Logistics, Tactics & Strategy, Special Task Force on the Effective Evacuation of OBJ from Aso Rock Villa, Abuja, to Owu)
(Director of Propaganda & Enlightenment, Global Alliance for the Expedited Impeachment of OBJ & ATK, and the Total De-Militarization of Nigerian Politics, post-OBJ)

pukpabi · Oct 10, 2006 , 07:30 PM

Phil,

Get your facts right. Ibadan is not the premier Nigerian University. It is UNN.

At the time UNN came into being, Ibadan was a University College, a campus of the University of London. It was not chartered in Nigeria.

I know a lot of people will call for my head, but the truth must be told.

Paschal Ukpabi, J.D.
Michigan, USA

planet1899 · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:13 PM

But UI was instituted in 1948, when was UNN? I doubt if it was before this time...please educate us as to when UNN became a university and when UI become one. That might help us understand which is premier. I have never heard anyone call UNN the premier university in the land.

Planet1899 is the best planet in the universe.

cdimkpa · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:20 PM

Its no point contending which univ. in Nigeria is premier. The important thing is to note that all the univs. in Nigeria, and this is in spite of Ibadan and UNN, are down and almost out. This is the topically important matter and not which of these 'dying' institutions came first.

planet1899 · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:24 PM

So you mean we are struggling to paint rooms on a sinking ship...well said, my friends...they are all out of contention. This is the sad point.

jojo · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:45 PM

You Guys Should Know That Pukabi Is An Attention Seeker. He Is Only Trying To Start His Tribal War. None Of Nigerian Universities Is Even Ranked Among Top 100 Uni In Africa, Mr Phil Is Talking About World Ranking While They Are Not Even Among Top African Universities

planet1899 · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:49 PM

I have been to UNN and all I can say is that I have seen nursery schools in the US with far more enabling environment.

Auspicious · Oct 10, 2006 , 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by pukpabi

Phil,

Get your facts right. Ibadan is not the premier Nigerian University. It is UNN.

At the time UNN came into being, Ibadan was a University College, a campus of the University of London. It was not chartered in Nigeria.

I know a lot of people will call for my head, but the truth must be told.

Paschal Ukpabi, J.D.
Michigan, USA

Everyone's head is his. So, k'olori d'ori e mu o! (Make evribodi hold eim brokos o!). They know the implication of what they do, otherwise they won't anticipate people calling for their heads.

The above is comments in quote is a typical injection of tribal/ethnic sentiments into a totally non-ethnic topic. Despite all the exposure to the open-mindedness of advanced societies in places like far-away Michigan, some people still hold on to that backward and ethnocentric defensiveness that stunts our progress as a people.

And to prove their hypocrisy, they tell others to get their facts right without even bothering to state theirs - or where has the commentator above disproved the comments of the author he addressed with his own facts - dates and all?

Auspicious.

cdimkpa · Oct 10, 2006 , 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by jojo

You Guys Should Know That Pukabi Is An Attention Seeker. He Is Only Trying To Start His Tribal War. None Of Nigerian Universities Is Even Ranked Among Top 100 Uni In Africa, Mr Phil Is Talking About World Ranking While They Are Not Even Among Top African Universities

Indeed, some things are not worth fighting for, tribally speaking (whatever that means). I know the Univ. of Ibadan like the palms of my hands, having lived just outside the campus for some years. I did not study there though. It is all name and nothing. So too for UNN and others, all of them.

I have provided below the first 20 African universities. The numbers after the names are the positions in the global ranking.

The InternetLab Ranking of 20 Top African Universities

Rank University Country World Rank
1 University of Cape Town South Africa 398
2 Universiteit Stellenbosch South Africa 566
3 Universiteit van Pretoria - University of Pretoria South Africa 718
4 University of the Witwatersrand South Africa 720
5 Rhodes University South Africa 738
6 University of South Africa South Africa 1,449
7 University of the Western Cape South Africa 1,553
8 American University in Cairo Egypt 1,826
9 Noordwes Universiteit - North West University South Africa 1,857
10 University of KwaZulu-Natal South Africa 2,214
11 University of Johannesburg South Africa 2,323
12 University of the Free State South Africa 2,369
13 Université de La Reunion France 2,387
14 Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University South Africa 2,542
15 University of Dar Es Salam Tanzania 2,819
16 University of Zimbabwe Zimbabwe 3,072
17 Al Akhawayn University in Ifrane Morocco 3,174
18 Cape Technikon South Africa 3,414
19 University of Mauritius Mauritius 3,682
20 University of Zululand South Africa 3,724

I leave you with this statement from the rankers

''The ranking and catalogue only include universities with their own institutional domain. About 200 institutions worldwide are still publishing their pages in directories under the domain of their internet hosting company or other shared domain. Many African universities (Nigerian federal ones) prevent us of further WR calculation due to this limitation''.

planet1899 · Oct 10, 2006 , 09:15 PM

So even in the above no Nigerian Univ can be found? We are finished.

cdimkpa · Oct 10, 2006 , 09:24 PM

I bring you some respite. At least we have some amongst the first 100 in Africa.

Please see http://www.webometrics.info/top100_c...sp?cont=africa wherein each flag represents the countries. You will find our Green-White-Green flag a few spots here and there. UNN does not have an effective webpage, so it cannot be easily sourced by the rankers. This corresponds with the quoted observation in my last post. So PUkpabi, get the UNN website up and running; and only then can you CONTEND (lol).

pukpabi · Oct 10, 2006 , 09:40 PM

Folks,

This is one reason Nigeria will never advance beyond the primitive stage that it is now. The truth is a very scarce "commodity" in Nigeria, but I will not be deterred by name-calling, playing the ostrich, or any of such vices. Again, I will never say things to make people feel good except, of course, my wife. Having said that, let me say this.

Someone called me an attention seeker. Hmm! For goodness sake, whose attention Am I seeking? The attention of nameless and faceless individuals on the "villagesquare." Day in day out, I get the attention of people who come to my office for business purposes; I get the attention of my wife and family members, friends and so on. Infact, the attention is so great I sometimes avoid people. So, I do not seek attention. I seek the truth and say it without caring who ox is gored.

Now, someone is saying something about tribal sentiment. For your information; in my whole extended family, only my wife went to UNN. The rest of them went to Ibadan, Lagos, Ife, and Port-Harcout. So, what are you talking about.

Now, between me and Phil, who is right? Yes Ibadan came into being in 1948, but it was a University College; a campus of the University of London, simplicita. It was chartered in the UK, and their diploma was signed in London. The premier Nigerian (indigeneous University in Nigeria is the UNN.)

You can take this to the bank. As for name-calling, it is never part of my upbringing. Say the truth and shame the devil. If that is attention-seeking, I will live with it.

paschal Ukpabi, J.D.
Michigan, USA

Auspicious · Oct 10, 2006 , 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by pukpabi

Folks,

This is one reason Nigeria will never advance beyond the primitive stage that it is now. The truth is a very scarce "commodity" in Nigeria, but I will not be deterred by name-calling, playing the ostrich, or any of such vices. Again, I will never say things to make people feel good except, of course, my wife. Having said that, let me say this.

When it comes to the issue of our collective progress, ethnocentric aggresiveness is just as dangerous - if not worse - as the absence of truth. And the truth is what the commentator above isn't very good at facing.

The history of unnecessary and charateristic angry, ethnocentric outbursts of some folks speaks for itself. And some of us have a tough time ignoring it. If at all the commentator above had any "facts" (date, time etc) that he claimed the author of the article doesn't have, he FAILED to state such fact initially. That simply makes him a hypocrite - one who points a finger at another when he has the very same flaw.

Let those who have facts state their facts and save the preachments for themselves. At least put up a date if you want to educate anybody about facts. Period.

Auspicious.

Djister · Oct 10, 2006 , 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by planet1899

I have been to UNN and all I can say is that I have seen nursery schools in the US with far more enabling environment.

Ena_kini? I don die for hia! You wan vex di Nnas wey go dia? Careful yourself o!

A WHOLE FOREMOST INSTITUTION IN THE EAST!

Nursery_wetin?

I BEG MAKE PERSON HOL ME, I WAN BEAT DIS PLANET COMOT FOR GALAXY!

MY BROSSES WEY GO UNN, MAKE UNA NO VEX!

docokwy · Oct 10, 2006 , 10:27 PM

How will UNN not be a US nursery school equivalent when Obasanjo, the owner of University of Ibadan tribally concentrates in developing his place, including his own private university. The alleged state of UNN is part of the war against Ndigbo. But in any case, going by several accounts, the name of any Nigerian university does not matter. What matters now is what each university attendant is able to achieve from the school attended. Did anyone have the opportunity to read Christian Dimkpa's perspective on Nigerian HND graduates? If you care, you can find it below

http://www.kwenu.com/publications/dimkpa/hnd_bsc.htm

Djister · Oct 10, 2006 , 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by docokwy

How will UNN not be a US nursery school equivalent when Obasanjo, the owner of University of Ibadan tribally concentrates in developing his place, including his own private university. The alleged state of UNN is part of the war against Ndigbo.

@Planet1899

You see what you have caused now?

@Docokwy

This long-standing war against Ndigbo seems never-ending. Let me ask you. What have Ndigbo done to deserve this? Is this just a Federal dislike for anything Igbo?

When will Ndigbo wake up from the drunk-like state to fight back (no reference to wars intended) with all the skills acquired from the 'Brilliance' we have heard so much about and stop whimpering?

It is time for the Best of Ndigbo to stand up and rescue themselves and their people. I get fed up when generation after generation all we hear is the war against Ndigbo! The next generation are laying in the womb now preparing further onslaught on our ears about how their people are marginalised and hated! They should be around to see Ekiti State and the war between Yoruba (OBJ) and Hausa/Fulani (ATIKU) maybe the entertainment will keep them quiet for a while.

I beg, tell me about the merits of UNN vs UI so we can have a decent conversation on the 'Failure' of the Nigerian Academic System as Initiated by IBB with the influx of gun-totting 'secret' students. That is what we are paying for now by the lists displayed!