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Yoruba Nem! Slave Ship! Clotilda! Mobile, Alabama!
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Names of the Clotilda Africans:

Pollee/Kupollee,Oroh/Wouro/Adissa,Monabee/Omolabi,Gumpa, Abile/Abila,Olualay/Oluale, Kazoola/Kossola, Ar-Zuma, Jaba/Jabi/Jabar, Abache, Shamba, Ahdabi, Ajemo, Ajua, Alloko,Bossah, Koloko, Cooyaka, Cozaloo/Gossalo, Fabumi, Iyouha, Lahla, Luwe,...
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Old Oct 15, 2007 , 05:32 PM   # 20 (permalink)
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Celti,

I rarely lend folks my books. I prefer to give certain people a book as a gift or gently push them towards the library. No. I am not aware of the book that you mentioned. I will check the review on it.

I am the sort that believes that when you have someone who telling my folks story truthfully, then it is necessary that they be supported financially. These sorts of people are telling my ancestors stories. Not only will I read it, but my grandchildren will read it. So it is very important that these people are able to earn a living. They must be financially supported.

Today er'body and dey mama can write a book. But a lot of it is trash. We must support the good ones that speak our spirit and tell the truth.

What is funny is I discovered Dreams by accident. I was in Borders one day. I always ventured to the AA section. It is so incredible small. I never buy books from Borders and the like. I scanned the shelves quickly with my eyes and there it was. It was infactuation immediately and once I read the introduction my infactuation turned to love. So I rushed to the library a couple of days later. I had not even completed the 25th page before I decided that this book was a must have for my library. So dreams and I will be together for while. Like I said, this is love, not pure infactuation. We have grown in our relationship, and my heart is filled with such joy.

Big K,

I know the they felt like a motherless child:

Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
A long ways from home
A long ways from home
True believer
A long ways from home
Along ways from home

Sometimes I feel like I’m almos’ gone
Sometimes I feel like I’m almos’ gone
Sometimes I feel like I’m almos’ gone
Way up in de heab’nly land
Way up in de heab’nly land
True believer
Way up in de heab’nly land
Way up in de heab’nly land

Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
Sometimes I feel like a motherless child
A long ways from home
There’s praying everywhere

Negro Spiritual - Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child


P.S. This song is sang real slow and mournful. This song always make folks cry and catch the spirit

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Old Nov 30, 2007 , 06:31 PM   # 21 (permalink)
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Big K,

Hello. I tried to send you a private message. I wasn't able to. Anyway, I wanted to know have you finished Dreams, and what was next on your to read list?

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Old May 13, 2008 , 03:01 PM   # 22 (permalink)
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Interesting thread. I am glad I happened on this.

Now I am tempted to get this expensive book that has the power to generate this illuminative conversation.

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Old May 15, 2008 , 01:29 AM   # 23 (permalink)
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Anike,

Girl was going to tell you to check you local library, but it looks like you not in the States. I hope one day you are able to read it. You want regret it.

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Pooks,

Abeg start a thread on daughters with a little synopsis. I want to start that this weekend and I'm hoping we can get a few villagers to pick up too, so we can have a comprehensive review on that thread. Oya...

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Old May 15, 2008 , 03:25 AM   # 25 (permalink)
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Anike,

Girl was going to tell you to check you local library, but it looks like you not in the States. I hope one day you are able to read it. You want regret it.

Regards,



Pookie
Thanks Pookie. If/when I read the book, I'll add my review.

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Old Dec 18, 2008 , 12:41 AM   # 26 (permalink)
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Hey Y'all,

There is a new book about the Clotilda authored by Natalie Robertson. I will try to read it within the next 45 days or so. Y'all know I have other books taking my attention. Here is a link to amazon
Amazon Amazon
. Also here is her www.theslaveshipclotilda.com. In addition, here is a press release issued by the Mobile
http://www.museumofmobile.com/html/detail.php?id=34.

Here is Dreams by Diouf
Amazon Amazon

Y'all check out the song by the Ojay's called Ship Hoy singing about the Middle Passage
You Tube

Big K,

You might be right. However, I think it was extremely important for us to know what the Africans thought and felt. It is also important that they spot of their US experience. It made it more personal to me. It wasn't some third party or source saying what they might have thought or felt. We were able to read Kudjo nems' words.

However, I am looking forward to reading Natalie's books. Y'all know I will post when I do.
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Pooks,

I already have a feeling this account will be more complete than Sylvaine's. Why? She researched beyond the point of departure in Benin and included the points of capture in, Oyo, Southern Kaduna etc.

Research Chronology

1992: Began research in AfricaTown with
support from PASALA (Project for the
Advanced Study of Art and Life in Africa.
University of Iowa) and the Consortium on
Institutional Cooperation (CIC).

1994: Traveled to Whydah, The Republic of Benin,
to interview descendants of Fon slave
traders. Supported by the Stanley
Foundation (University of Iowa).

1995: Delivered "Welcome Address" at the 1995
AfricaTown Folk Festival.

1996: Received a Dissertation-Year Fellowship
from the CIC/Andrew Mellon Foundation.

"The African Ancestry of the Founders of
AfricaTown, Alabama, 1859-Present
(Ph.D.dissertation. Library of Congress, 1996).

1999 “Surviving on the Strength, Knowledge, and
Wisdom Of Their Ancestors: The Cultural
History of AfricaTown, Alabama,” delivered
as a component of a panel discussion about
the PBS series entitled Africans in America:
America’s Journey Through Slavery, in
collaboration with Noland Walker, a
producer of that series.

“The Illegal Africa-To-America Slave Trade
During The 19th Century.” A talk delivered as
a component of “Two Worlds Connect,” one
of a series of educational roundtables
exploring “The Angola To Virginia
Connection: 1619 to 1999” held in
commemoration of 380 Years of African
-American heritage and sponsored by the
Jamestown -Yorktown Foundation.

2000: Who's Who Among America's Teachers
(2002, 2004, 2005).

2001: Appointed by The Honorable L. Douglas
Wilder, Chairman of the Board of Directors
of the United States National Slavery
Museum, to the cadre of scholars who are
delineating the narrative for the museum's
exhibitions.

2002: Became one of only ten scholars to
participate in UNCF/Mellon's inaugural

Faculty Seminar entitled “Gods, Knowledge,
and Modernity,” facilitated by Nobel Laureate
Wole Soyinka (Gorée Institute, Gorée Island,
Senegal), in conjunction with Spelman
College.

Delivered slide-presentation entitled
"The Nigerian Survivors of the Clotilda,
Last Slave Ship to the United States" at
the Conference on Nigeria in the 20th
Century, convened by Toyin Falola.
University of Texas at Austin.

“The Trans-Atlantic Smuggling Venture
Of The Slaver Clotilda,”inaugural lecture
in a series held in conjunction with the
exhibition Captive Passage: Transatlantic
Slave Trade To The Americas. Sponsored
by the National Endowment For The
Humanities. Mariners’ Museum. Newport
News, VA.

2003: Received the National Endowment for
the Humanities Faculty Research Award
that facilitated travel to Southwestern
Nigeria to interview royal messengers
(ilari) in the Afin (Royal Palace) in Oyo.

Guest Panelist, "Contemporary Issues on
Slavery and the Black World." University of
Ibadan. Oyo State, Nigeria

2004: Returned to Nigeria (central or Middle Belt
region) as a National Endowment for the
Humanities Scholar to interview chiefs in
Kaninkon, Jaba, and Takad Chiefdoms
(Southern Kaduna).

Who's Who in America.

2005: Who's Who of American Women.

2006: Developed and taught a course entitled "A
Semiotic Exploration of the Triangular
Trade," in the Advanced Studies in England
Program (Bath), associated with University
College, Oxford.


Invited by Toyin Falola to contribute three
essays relative to the Clotilda and AfricaTown
to the first Encyclopedia on the Middle
Passage (www.Greenwood.com).

2007: Became a Senior Scholar at the United
States National Slavery Museum.

Who's Who in American Education.

Promoted to the rank of Associate Professor
(with Tenure) at Hampton University.

Invited by The Honorable L. Douglas Wilder
to contribute four chapters to Freedom In My
Heart, the scholarly companion to the
exhibitions of the United States National
Slavery Museum, published in collaboration
with National Geographic Books.

2008: Published The Slave Ship Clotilda and the
Making of AfricaTown, U.S.A.: Spirit of
Our Ancestors. Available at Praeger.com and
Greenwood.com.

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permission.

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Yoruba Nem! Slave Ship! Clotilda! Mobile, Alabama!
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Jul 31, 2007
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Names of the Clotilda Africans:

Pollee/Kupollee,Oroh/Wouro/Adissa,Monabee/Omolabi,Gumpa, Abile/Abila,Olualay/Oluale, Kazoola/Kossola, Ar-Zuma, Jaba/Jabi/Jabar, Abache, Shamba, Ahdabi, Ajemo, Ajua, Alloko,Bossah, Koloko, Cooyaka, Cozaloo/Gossalo, Fabumi, Iyouha, Lahla, Luwe, Messa/Meissa, Ojo Facha, Okegbale, Sakaru, Sanalowa, Somee
The two names in red have Esan, Edo meanings.

The two names in red, may or may not be Esan, Edo names; but they sure have meanings in Esan, Edo dialect.

Iyouha, = Iyoha

Root: Esan, Edo

Meaning:

One who volunteered to temporarily serve a master in return for protection and provisions.

This was common during pre-colonial wars. The less powerful, would run to the war lords for protection.

Okegbale, = Okoeguale

Root: Esan, Edo

Meaning:

Oko = Boy or male child / Son

Eguale/Eguare/ Eguae/ Egwuare = Palace

One who was born in the palace

A son of a King/Prince

A male child born to a family that works and lives in the palace

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Old Dec 18, 2008 , 10:33 PM   # 29 (permalink)
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I missed this book review thread in its first time around. But Pooky recently pointed me to the Dreams book in my thread on the film about the Travel of August King. I've taken delivery of the Dreams book and the DVD film. That's me Christmas reading sorted...

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Old Dec 19, 2008 , 02:04 AM   # 30 (permalink)
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Thanks y'all,

I hope to read more reviews on this book. I am sort of obsessed with this book. I want as many Naijas to read it as possible.

No Smoking,

I like movies, but watching a movie is a passive activity. But a good book is an intellectual journey and it uses more brain cells. I figured since a historical movie interested you, you may be open to reading a little history that pertains to present day Nigeria. Don't be scurred! Smiling. I will look forward to your review.

Here is the website for Ms. Diouf - http://www.sylvianediouf.com/ and Mobile's official website - http://www.cityofmobile.org/ Mobile is just like Lagos. It is a port city.

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Old Dec 22, 2008 , 04:53 AM   # 31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Celticologist View Post
Have you read Ronald Segal's The Black Diaspora?.
First read it in 1995 and I think it's nice. I have had to buy it twice after that cos people never return that book once borrowed.
You can borrow mine anytime - for 5 mins - in situ.

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Old Dec 22, 2008 , 01:24 PM   # 32 (permalink)
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@ Pooks, Big-K, Vade mecum, No Smoking et al,

I am am fascinated by history and enthralled by the historical. African American History is my passion and I am the President of an NGO named The African Legacy. The Authorities refused to register the first name - The Black Ascendancy Movement and I was hounded by Abacha's goons under suspicion of forming a guerilla movement but that's a story for another time.

The NGO's aim is to bridge the gap in knowledge and Culture between the Continental and Diaspora Africans Africans. I have not been able to muster much International support because the emphasis is more on the UN pet projects, HIV-AIDS, Women, Children, Gender issues etc. It remains a vision of mine to affect the educational system first in Nigeria. To that end, I ran a weekly column entitled, THE AFRICAN HOLOCAUST in Thiday Newspaper about 10 years ago. I had to stop it when Thisday started being published in Abuja and I had to submit my articles 2 weeks before publication. I found out that elements and sometimes whole paragraphs of the column I submitted would appear under someone else's byline in the daily and sometimes in other journals. My original ideas and brainstorming would by then have become stale.

Here is a list of books I have in my library

Capitalism and Slavery ERIC WILLIAMS
Gerrald Massey’s Lectures GERALD MASSEY
God is Black NAIWU OSAHON
Heritage of Freedom DONALD A. RITCHIE
W.E.B. Du Bois (Biography of a Race) DAVID LEVERING LEWIS
They Came Before Columbus IVAN VAN SERTIMA
Frederick Douglass WILLIAM S. McFEELY
The Preacher King RICHARD LISCHER
The Making of Modern Africa (Vol. 1) E. AFIGBO, E.A.AYANDELE, et all
World’s Great Men of Colour Vol.1 @ II J. A. ROGERS
The Black Holocaust for Beginners S.E. ANDERSON
Africa and Africans in the Making of the Atlantic World (1400-1680) JOHN THORNTON
Slavery and African Life PATRICK MANNING
Coltrane (A Biography) C.O. SIMPKINS
Africa PHYLLIS MARTIN & PATRICK O’MEARA
A Treasury of Afro-American Folklore HAROLD COURLANDER
The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey(Centennial Edition) AMY J. GARVEY
Civilization or Barbarism CHEIKH ANTA DIOP
The Lost Cities of Africa BASIL DAVIDSON
African Art FRANK WILLETT
The Harlem Renaissance STEVEN WATSON
In Search of Ancient Gods ERICH VON DANIKEN
Capitalism and Slavery ERIC WILLIAMS
Heritage of Freedom DONALD A. RITCHIE
What you were not taught in History Class - ???

This Inventory in my laptop is about 10 years old. I have other books but cannot recall them right now and I am not in Nigeria at the moment.


I look forward to interracting with those that share a common interest in this area.

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Count 1,

A man or woman after my own heart. I am not sure of your gender. Anyway, I see you are a serious reader. Many of the books on your list I have read, some I have not. One of my favorites is Ivan Van Sertima. Also I loved The Afro Americans Folklore book. I have a few favorite stories that I have memorize and tell sometimes.

I too have a passion for African American history. I have been basically obsessed when I came to the realization that I had been seriously miseducated. Some people smoke, do drugs, watch hours of t.v., drink, etc. I love books. I believe in the old cliche' "garbage in, garbage out." So I try not to feel my mind with nonsense. However, I do love some good AA fiction and biographys.

Initially, I wasn't interested in African history per se. I did not really see it as having anything to do with me. However, by studying African American history, I keep getting directed to to how African American African ancestors came to be. So I was forced to read book that dealt with the slave trading years. What we call present day Nigeria was involved in supplying human chattal for 300 years.

There is a book that I read some time ago that mentioned the Ibo experiences as chattal from the coast and on the slave ship. The book isn't about them per se, they are just a part of the story. I found it fascinating. I will list the book soon.

Anyway, I am pleased there is another kindred on the board.

P.S. There is also another book I have read that sounds similar to a book on your list. It is titled "The Lies Your Teacher Taught You."

Also Zora Neal Hurston, the famous folklorist and wiriter, interviewed Kudjo and wrote a book about him and the others, but it was never published. My favorite book of hers is There Eyes Are Watching God (
Amazon Amazon
). The language is pure poetry.

Here are a few sites about her. Her initial contact with Kudjo was a failure and she plagerized part of her manuscript. She was called on the carpet by her mentor, and made to go and get an actual interview with Kudjo.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...86-9934477_ITM

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