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| Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst
Hi All,
I hereby challenge anyone to come on board here to slug it out on the above subject.
I shall be writing in this clash of the titan on the following reasons:
1. A look at the patriach called Chief Aremu Olusegun Obasanjo
2. An introspection into the Obasanjo family with special emphasis on the Owu clan
3. The Man named Gbenga Obasanjo, his life and family!
4. The African-Yoruba culture bordering on parental respect.
5. Why i am of the opinion that Gbenga goofed heavily.
6. The lady called Mojisola Obasanjo
7. The fate of Wuraola and Boluwatife Obasanjo- The children of "unknown" paternity
8 "In-Marriage secrets"- Let it remain secrets no matter what!
9. Juxtaposing and dissecting the pivotal differences between the African culture and the westernization of our psychological well-being
10. The way forward- Casting blames, etal.
I would also want an unbiased moderator as this will be a highly sensitive debate!
I am also open to have co-debater(s) on my side.
I eagerly await a response.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Carry On old soldier. Am in the ring- shoot!
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Wale Akin, have you made your points or you want to expantiate before I start destroying them? (speaking in typical Nigerian fashion) I will prefer you expand on them, so I dont jump to conclusions and open myself up to friendly fire  In the absence of which, I will assume all my assumptions are correct and you lose the right to amend your position.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Originally Posted by busanga Wale Akin, have you made your points or you want to expantiate before I start destroying them? (speaking in typical Nigerian fashion) I will prefer you expand on them, so I dont jump to conclusions and open myself up to friendly fire  In the absence of which, I will assume all my assumptions are correct and you lose the right to amend your position.
Busanga,
We cant proceed without a Moderator as instructed by SLB. Lets wait a few minutes pls. I have the next 3 hours free today and aptly prepared for this debate!
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Hi WaleAkin,
A couple of points:
I'm available to moderate if you don't get any response from Celticologist, EeezeeBee or Abraxas. You may need to PM these guys if you want a faster response;
Are you clear on who you are debating against, i.e. who the Opponent is? It sounds like you want to debate against Busanga, but I'm not sure. Or do you want to take on all comers at once? It's not impossible, but it puts you at a disadvantage. |
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst I have only met Chief Olusegun Obasanjo twice at close range, first in 1978 at First Baptist Church Lagos where he had come to worship with President Jimmy Carter and secondly when he drove into a filing station at Ishaga Road, Ojuelegba, Lagos in a Volkswagen car in 1987. Apart from these two sightings, i dont have any relationship with him at all.
Nigerians have a funny behaviour that i dont really like and that is the fact that we tend to judge alot without taking adequate caution and/or critical look on factors bordering on these warped judgements. I'd like to state that we have heard on countless occassions that Chief Olusegun Obasanjo punishes his members of staff caught stealing hatched eggs and day old chicks at the Obasanjo Farm but how many Nigerians considered doing a thorough check to verify these accusations? Its worthy for the purpose of this debate to point out that no such man-handled staff who were allegedly beaten with horsewhip came out to state such.
We even heard that he impregnated a 18-year old girl in 2004, this is still to be verified and confirmed as true. Rumour mongers were also quick to say he had a fling with the likes of Mrs Remi Oyo, his Special Assistant, Dr Ngozi Iweala, his former Minister of finance and Dr Oby Ezekwesili, former Education minister, all these ladies in his 8 years as President- Now how many of these are true pls?
Ms Chris Anyanwu, a popular journalist once spent an impromptu 24 hrs with him then as President and the details showed on TV, this gave Nigerians a deep insight into the daily life of our President as thoroughly busy moving from one meeting into another. In his particular TV programme, he changed clothing 7 times and was up the next morning at 5AM for the morning devotion conducted by Prof Yusuf Obaje, the Provost of the Baptist Theological Seminary, Ogbomosho and Chaplain, Aso Rock.
Chief Olusegun Obasanjo is a polygamist- A personal choice and we have to respect this aspect of his life. Lets give it to him, he has excelled in the positive and educational traininig of his children- Lets mention a few of them- Dr Iyabo Bello-Obasanjo is a Medical Doctor, Muyiwa Obasanjo is also a New York based Legal practitioner and Gbenga Obasanjo who holds an MBA. If we are to judge this old man by the educational achievements of these children, a typical Nigerian would say- He has tried, so where did he get it all wrong?
I sometimes wonder how some men could cope with 3,4,5,6 wives at a stretch without stress when to manage even 1 Wife, you need divine grace! We are only much able to judge him cos he's a public figure, most homes in Nigeria are on the verge of destruction cos there's no profound love and harmony, this was seen when he had that popular public altercation with his Wife and the dirty linen washed in full public glare- I look at him as an old Man who needs our prayers and support- We have seen evidences of his high temperament on national issues- The Ikeja bombings and Odi-Zaki biam military invasion.
I hereby submit to Busanga and Co that Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, former President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, a former Army General and Polygamist has excelled in the proper training of his children but this particular child named Gbenga is only being wayward.
I want to be associated with my Dad as the former President of Nigeria, i want to be associated with my Dad on the demise of one of his wives as a result of beauty enhancement even when all Nigerians abused our family, i want to be associated with my Dad and stick to him in all manner of Ups and Downs.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst I will be back with a response in 2 hours. Thanks Wale for your succint submission. Watch this space.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Olugbenga Obasanjo is the 1st male child of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo- Yorubas calls such a son Dawodu-simply meaning the 1st Child and Scion! A heavy responsibility lies on such children as they are regarded as the 2nd in command if per-adventure the Father travels or dies, he has the total responsibility to cater for the entire family including his own biological Mother- The Yoruba culture is so rich that some mothers call these 1st sons their Olowo ori- The one who has paid my dowry- This simply show the direct contact of such children with the breadwinner and Father of the house.
In this particular discourse, this heavy responsibility falls on Gbenga Obasanjo- He has the moral rights to lay good and positive examples for the likes of Muyiwa Obasanjo and co, his behavioural attitudes should be above board as a true representation of the father, even if the Father is bad- Gbenga being the Dawodu must make sure the rest of the family stays strong and united in purpose, no matter the extreme nature of the father, Gbenga has the utmost responsibility to keep the unity fire burning in the family.
He has not done this at all, i totally lost it when he granted that impromptu press interview to a total stranger-Omoyele Sowore in his own car when he picked up the stranded Sowore at the Seme border, Gbenga readily come across to me as what the Yorubas would call OMO-ALE, for God's sake, no matter the negative attitudes of this man, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo remain the vehicle of your birth- why rubbish his name in the public gallery?
Boluwatife Obasanjo is the 5 year old son of Gbenga and Mojisola Obasanjo- I still have vivid memories of this particular age in my life- Bolu will NEVER forgive Gbenga, he deserves no forgiveness anyway and Gbenga need to go make adequate family ammendments so that the future of this boy would not be mortgaged by his sacrilegious act!!
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Non-debating Villagers,
While we are waiting for Busanga to return, please be aware that it's all right for you to state who you support as you have been doing. You can even make posts that support their view. And you can ask questions of the Main Debaters (WaleAkin and Busanga) as you have been doing.
However, please note that only the Main Debaters will be allowed to respond to points made on the debate. For example, if Lizmoses makes a post, Pappilo won't be permitted to respond to that post on this thread. If he does, his post will be moved to a separate thread. If we don't do this, the debate will splinter into many little debates, it will lose focus and it will really no different from the usual threads that we have on the rest of the board.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst I was trained by both parents to prostrate flat when i greet them in the morning, returning from school in the afternoon and as neccesary. The traditional Yoruba tradition mandates all male children to do this as a form of respect and because the characters in this discourse are Yorubas, i shall limit my response to the Yoruba traditions.
I picked up my parents at Heathrow Airport this past summer and upon sighting them , prostrated flat in the full glare of everyone- I will NEVER allow my sojourn in the UK to becloud the good Nigerian trainings i was tutored, my Father responded by placing his RIGHT hand on my head and prayed vigorously in concentrated Ondo dialect!!
Chief Olusegun Obasanjo according to reports is known to be a strict Father and disciplinarian- even if we dont have the proofs, his military background says alot and i so sure he must have tutored Gbenga so well most especially since he is the 1st Male child. Parental respect is of high importance and they must be accorded no matter what!!
If Gbenga Obasanjo has this inbuilt and highly precious respect as highlighted above, he will not have the boldness to come forth and embarass his biological father- What is the job of the ELDERS- Nelson Mandela saw the need to gather elders of the Africa together so that the future of the African child can be guaranteed, he formed the ELDERSFORUM. The elders are there to mediate, help us out when stuck, proffer lasting solutions to our problem- I refer to them as the BALM of GILEAD!
Chief Olusegun Obasanjo is the Balogun of Owu- this chieftancy affords Gbenga to have a relationship with the Oba and his councils of Elders in preparation for him as the Balogun when his Father die, I am of the opinion that he should have sought audience with the Oba, report these indecent acts with sound proofs, allow the elders to mediate. Gbenga has done 3 things here by NOT reporting his father to the elders-
He has rubbished his family name
He has rubbished the Owu Dynasty
He has rubbished the Yoruba heritage of OMOLUABI
Speaking about my own biological Father- He is a strict no nonsense Man but he has this soft spot for his Immediate younger Brother, so when we have a lingering family issue where he is not ready to listen to us, we seek the face of this our loving Uncle and the case is closed! Gbenga as the Scion of the Obasanjo should have known someone in the family who has the heart of Obasanjo- why not report him to that person- All reasonable avenues MUST be expended.
I hereby submit to Busanga and co that Olugbenga Obasanjo lack the basic respects accorded to one's parents hence this undignified move.
Cheers,
Wale Akin (A true Nigerian with total respect for the elders, NO MATTER WHAT!!) Villagers,
Kindly follow my initial bullet points pls..................I am taking it one by each.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst I use this opportunity welcome you all to this important debate. My sincere thanks goes to the moderator of the event, the NVS administrators and organizers, and fellow villagers who have taken time out of their hard pressed schedule to participate in this. I also extend my thanks to my co-debater – Mr. Wale Akin, your affability is undeniable. However, may I also use the same opportunity to express my dismay at the emotional turn of your submission. I have flipped, sliced and diced your comments and have found no substantive submission rooted in fact. The fictional turn is regrettable and I apologize on your behalf to fellow villagers. Our mandate and my intention is to keep this debate rooted in facts and facts only. This I will attempt doing in the succeeding paragraphs.
First, what I read is a bunch of concocted cock and bull stories, that you wish we believe to be the stereotypical mindset of a typical Nigerian. I refuse to be painted by that brush. I for one have not heard 60% of the stories you believe to be making rounds on Mr. Obasanjo, let alone believing them. Does that make me any less Nigerian? I refuse to buy into your notion that we Nigerians rush to judgment (which by itself is a rush to judgment on your part), in as much as I also refuse to be drawn into your argument on whether Mr. Obasanjo is a good or bad parent. That judgment I will leave to the discerning public, whom I believe have contravening and supporting facts in public domain supporting or dismantling the points you made regarding this, and should be left alone to make this call. This however falls outside the purview of this discourse.
My assertions relating to the theme of this debate is as follows:
a. That Gbenga Obasanjo is well within his legal, marital and cultural rights as a husband, son, citizen of Federal Republic of Nigeria and human being of ethnic origins in the Western Yoruba Region of Nigeria, to expose inappropriate relationship between his father and wife as part of divorce proceedings in any court within the federation.
b. That Sun News as responsible press people, are well within their right to report such assertions made in these court proceedings to the public, for information purposes (only as allegations) – to inform and educate the public on the private conduct of past, present or future public officers of interest in the interest of probity, transparency and openness.
c. That the public is free to make up their minds, as jurors in the court of public opinion on such public officers as they deem fit, perhaps based on precedence of action, believability of accuser and credibility of the press. Indeed, the court of public opinion being one of two courts in our society (the other being the Law Courts) is by no means perfect, but has its norms and standards –which public officers, by virtue of their standing and calling, have subscribed to and should seek or get no waiver thereof.
These are my ascertions friend, and if you agree with me, cut your loses and
See Beckham vs. News of the World , New York Times vs Sullivan , and other country standards for Libel against public officers and celebrities ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel#United_States_law |
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Mrs Mojisola Obasanjo-It is known in the Yoruba tradition that the marriage title Mrs added to a lady's name once she is married should be treated with respect at all times. The popular saying that "He who finds a Wife, has found a good thing" rings in my head each time i am opportuned to attend a wedding ceremony. What must have led her to commit this indecent act with her FIL?
1. Is she a flirt?
2. Is she morally bankrupt?
3. Is she cursed? ( I dont believe in this point but it must be addressed as it aptly borders on the Yoruba tradition)
4. Is she lonely and sex starved by Gbenga- her legal husband?
5. Has Gbenga done something wrong to her in the past and now uses this sleeping with her FIL to really spite him
6. Did Gbenga courted her personally or it was an arranged marriage by both Chiefs Onabanjo and Obasanjo?
7. Was she hypnotised/blue-toothed/voodooed by Obasanjo
All these and many more are intricate questions that we must answer to get a good grasp of this discourse!
She definitely knows that sleeping with her FIL is a no-go area- even if she is sexually pressed and cant hold it any longer- FIL is not the right choice. Whatever her religion-Is she devouted?
I leave Busanga and co with this popular hymn: God give us Christian Homes
Homes where the bible is loved and taught
Homes where the Master's will is sought
Homes filled with His love and thoughts
God gives us Christian homes/2x
The Wife, be you a Christian, Muslim whatever has the utmost responsibility to hold the family together in prayer- I submit that Mrs Mojisola Obasanjo lacks this grace.
Cheers,
Wale Akin (A true Nigerian with total respect for the elders, NO MATTER WHAT!!) Caveat:
We are debating based on the facts we have on board.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Refocusing the debate... Wale Akin, just to confirm, your central point is that Gbenga Obasanjo is wrong to make public the allegations he has made about his father, Olusegun Obasanjo - am I correct in this? Please confirm.
And Busanga, your position is that he is right to do so, correct? Please confirm so that both of you are sure what you are debating.
This is just to make things clearer for those who may not have deduced this from your initial submission. I would suggest that for future debaters, they make their central point stand out very clearly in one line so that there's no confusion.
Also Wale Akin, referring to your first post, you can have supporters in this debate - but you can't have co-debaters. You have to stand on your own, otherwise the debate could end up being very entangled.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Originally Posted by Shoko Loko Bangoshe Refocusing the debate... Wale Akin, just to confirm, your central point is that Gbenga Obasanjo is wrong to make public the allegations he has made about his father, Olusegun Obasanjo - am I correct in this? Please confirm.
And Busanga, your position is that he is right to do so, correct? Please confirm so that both of you are sure what you are debating.
This is just to make things clearer for those who may not have deduced this from your initial submission. I would suggest that for future debaters, they make their central point stand out very clearly in one line so that there's no confusion.
Also Wale Akin, referring to your first post, you can have supporters in this debate - but you can't have co-debaters. You have to stand on your own, otherwise the debate could end up being very entangled.
Correct sir. Right now, I think Wale is arguing with himself.
Wale, there is nothing grasp, but what you intend to debate. I wait for your to concur on what your points are. I have made mine- disagree or agree. Which one?
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Originally Posted by Shoko Loko Bangoshe Refocusing the debate... Wale Akin, just to confirm, your central point is that Gbenga Obasanjo is wrong to make public the allegations he has made about his father, Olusegun Obasanjo - am I correct in this? Please confirm.
And Busanga, your position is that he is right to do so, correct? Please confirm so that both of you are sure what you are debating.
This is just to make things clearer for those who may not have deduced this from your initial submission. I would suggest that for future debaters, they make their central point stand out very clearly in one line so that there's no confusion.
Also Wale Akin, referring to your first post, you can have supporters in this debate - but you can't have co-debaters. You have to stand on your own, otherwise the debate could end up being very entangled.
SLB,
YES!
I gave the initial bullet points to set the order on my part- my critical look is yet to be submitted- I need to buttress my points.
I think Busanga has violated the rule(s) by drumming an unwarranted support in his 1st submission.
I'd suggest that we bring in our points from whatever directions as initially submitted by Lizmoses- My main angle is purely TRADITIONAL.
Cheers Moderator Notes,
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Originally Posted by WaleAkin SLB,
YES!
I gave the initial bullet points to set the order on my part- my critical look is yet to be submitted- I need to buttress my points.
I think Busanga has violated the rule(s) by drumming an unwarranted support in his 1st submission.
I's suggest that we bring in our points from whatever directions as initially submitted by Lizmoses- My main angle is purely TRADITIONAL.
Cheers Moderator Notes,
BRB in 3 hrs pls
We are waiting for your points, cos right now it is lost on everyone of us. In any case, I think if you allege you will at least substantiate. Where were the rules violated?
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Wale Akin,
I think that Busanga has made his points in #36.
Basically he is saying that it is all right for Gbenga Obasanjo to make the allegations, and for any newspaper to report them so that people can make their minds up on the matter.
It doesn't sound like your post #37 is a response to this. So when you return, we await your response to Busanga's post. Basically, you need to let us know why you don't think that it is right for Gbenga to make these allegations public. If you have already explained why, then you need to refer Busanga to the specific post in which you did so, and he can take it from there.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst SLB (Our highly esteemed Moderator),
I have made the following submissions for now and expect that Busanga read through my responses pls. For clarity sake, i reproduce them again- I want to be associated with my Dad as the former President of Nigeria, i want to be associated with my Dad on the demise of one of his wives as a result of beauty enhancement even when all Nigerians abused our family, i want to be associated with my Dad and stick to him in all manner of Ups and Downs. Olugbenga Obasanjo is the 1st male child of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo- Yorubas calls such a son Dawodu-simply meaning the 1st Child and Scion! A heavy responsibility lies on such children as they are regarded as the 2nd in command if per-adventure the Father travels or dies, he has the total responsibility to cater for the entire family including his own biological Mother- The Yoruba culture is so rich that some mothers call these 1st sons their Olowo ori- The one who has paid my dowry- This simply show the direct contact of such children with the breadwinner and Father of the house. for God's sake, no matter the negative attitudes of this man, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo remain the vehicle of your birth- why rubbish his name in the public gallery? If Gbenga Obasanjo has this inbuilt and highly precious respect as highlighted above, he will not have the boldness to come forth and embarass his biological father- What is the job of the ELDERS- Nelson Mandela saw the need to gather elders of the Africa together so that the future of the African child can be guaranteed, he formed the ELDERSFORUM. The elders are there to mediate, help us out when stuck, proffer lasting solutions to our problem- I refer to them as the BALM of GILEAD! Chief Olusegun Obasanjo is the Balogun of Owu- this chieftancy affords Gbenga to have a relationship with the Oba and his councils of Elders in preparation for him as the Balogun when his Father die, I am of the opinion that he should have sought audience with the Oba, report these indecent acts with sound proofs, allow the elders to mediate. Gbenga has done 3 things here by NOT reporting his father to the elders-
He has rubbished his family name
He has rubbished the Owu Dynasty
He has rubbished the Yoruba heritage of OMOLUABI Gbenga as the Scion of the Obasanjo should have known someone in the family who has the heart of Obasanjo- why not report him to that person- All reasonable avenues MUST be expended.
I hereby submit to Busanga and co that Olugbenga Obasanjo lack the basic respects accorded to one's parents hence this undignified move.
Cheers,
Wale Akin (A true Nigerian with total respect for the elders, NO MATTER WHAT!!) Notes,
BRB as earlier indicated pls.
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst See Responses Below I want to be associated with my Dad as the former President of Nigeria, i want to be associated with my Dad on the demise of one of his wives as a result of beauty enhancement even when all Nigerians abused our family, i want to be associated with my Dad and stick to him in all manner of Ups and Downs.
Gbenga is by no means you. Your desires do not in any way approximate to the desire of Gbenga Obasanjo. Olugbenga Obasanjo is the 1st male child of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo- Yorubas calls such a son Dawodu-simply meaning the 1st Child and Scion! A heavy responsibility lies on such children as they are regarded as the 2nd in command if per-adventure the Father travels or dies, he has the total responsibility to cater for the entire family including his own biological Mother- The Yoruba culture is so rich that some mothers call these 1st sons their Olowo ori- The one who has paid my dowry- This simply show the direct contact of such children with the breadwinner and Father of the house.
If anything, the same Yoruba culture also place the responsibility of protecting his siblings for misdeeds in or out of the family by anyone including his father on the first born. In my opinion, as dawodu he is doing a downright good job of exposing evil and in some ways protecting his younger ones. for God's sake, no matter the negative attitudes of this man, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo remain the vehicle of your birth- why rubbish his name in the public gallery?
First, you will have to prove that Olusegun Obasanjo has a name to protect. I mean you cant rubbish, what has been already rubbished. How can you kill a corpse? If Gbenga Obasanjo has this inbuilt and highly precious respect as highlighted above, he will not have the boldness to come forth and embarass his biological father- What is the job of the ELDERS- Nelson Mandela saw the need to gather elders of the Africa together so that the future of the African child can be guaranteed, he formed the ELDERSFORUM. The elders are there to mediate, help us out when stuck, proffer lasting solutions to our problem- I refer to them as the BALM of GILEAD!
You speak of respect as if it is a one way street and some kind of absolute. Respect, even in Yoruba culture must be earned and protected. When elders do what approximates them to court jesters, it behooves on younger ones to point it out to them. Agba gbon, omo de gbon- la fi da Ile Ife. Yoruba's as escapulated in the afore said proverb dont think age ascribe you impunity. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo is the Balogun of Owu- this chieftancy affords Gbenga to have a relationship with the Oba and his councils of Elders in preparation for him as the Balogun when his Father die, I am of the opinion that he should have sought audience with the Oba, report these indecent acts with sound proofs, allow the elders to mediate. Gbenga has done 3 things here by NOT reporting his father to the elders-
He has rubbished his family name
He has rubbished the Owu Dynasty
He has rubbished the Yoruba heritage of OMOLUABI
For you to make these allegations, you first must prove that Gbenga have not reported this case to the Owu in council or to the Alake. May be even the dead Olowu know about it! We just dont have enough info and it will be absurd to have this discussion. However, in as much as there is omoluwabi, there is also Agbaya. Agbaya is an elder undeserving of respect and normal cultural ethos. One who sleeps with his DIL is definitely in that shameful category- at least in the mind of his accuser who can then throw caution to the wind and proceed as he wishes. Gbenga as the Scion of the Obasanjo should have known someone in the family who has the heart of Obasanjo- why not report him to that person- All reasonable avenues MUST be expended.
I hereby submit to Busanga and co that Olugbenga Obasanjo lack the basic respects accorded to one's parents hence this undignified move.
Respect? Which respect? To the law, to his consience or to his fellow man? I respect nobody but God!
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| Re: Disgracing your father in public: A critical look at Gbenga Obasanjo's outburst Wuraola and Boluwatife Obasanjo-I have a strong pitiance for these children, i met one of the sons of the late Chief Okotie-Eboh at a gathering in 2006, he has changed his name to XYZ-ABC, the new name has no reflection of the compound name Okotie-Eboh and he has a strong reason. If we are not careful, these innocent children will live with this stigma for the rest of their lives, by the declaration of Gbenga Obasanjo, they have traditionally become bast.ards, they will henceforth be looked down upon at school, even if the paternity case is settled and Chief Obasanjo is declared the father- the case is more worsened!
We have a duty to protect our children, Gbenga is outrightly selfish in his quest to get his father nailed and buried, come to think about this: reports has it that he's being seperated from Mojisola since 2005, why wait such a long time before firing the legal shots? Do we have some latent factors not declared?
The name OBASANJO going by the allegations of Gbenga is in deep shi.t- many of the female Obasanjos will need to work extra to get good husbands- Many Nigerian parents will totally reject a marriage to the Obasanjo family- An Aunty-in-Law of mine disallowed her only daughter from a marrying a guy whose parents are divorced- It took the intervention of the whole family. Chief Alex Onabanjo and Mojisola Obasanjo
Moji confided in Gbenga that her father slept with her as a teenager- I doff my hat for her on this declaration, if she truly did this- She must really LOVE Gbenga so much and i respect this. Couples share alot of secrets in their holy matrimonies and these secrets MUST forever remain classified info to be taken to the grave- I hereby submit that Gbenga is not matured to keep a woman under his roof.
I also condemn in strong terms if truly Chief Alex Onabanjo slept with his daughter, Mojisola- He should be tied to a stake and shot dead! How on earth would the nakedness of your own biological daughter be erotic and appealing to a sane father? I once again salute the courage of Moji to have the temerity to share such highly classified info with Gbenga- She's a lady in a million!You dont get the wife you want at an instant- What you get is the raw material to be moulded a. That Gbenga Obasanjo is well within his legal, marital and cultural rights as a husband, son, citizen of Federal Republic of Nigeria and human being of ethnic origins in the Western Yoruba Region of Nigeria, to expose inappropriate relationship between his father and wife as part of divorce proceedings in any court within the federation.
Cut it off Busanga- This same absurd act propels our Nigerian ladies resident in the UK and/or US to call 999 at the slightest provocation to bring police officers to mediate in marital issues- I cant fathom the fact that a Gay Police officer or a divorcee or a single person would come into my house to mediate, how do we juxtapose this pls? b. That Sun News as responsible press people, are well within their right to report such assertions made in these court proceedings to the public, for information purposes (only as allegations) – to inform and educate the public on the private conduct of past, present or future public officers of interest in the interest of probity, transparency and openness.
I am sick of this corrupt western life we tend to copy. When Bill Clinton had that fling with Monica, Hillary and Chelsea stood by him- These are the same people whose culture we are copying! Theres nothing like that entity called FAMILY. When David Beckham also had a fling with Rebecca Loos, Victoria brushed it aside and saved David- The children are more important than anything else! c. That the public is free to make up their minds, as jurors in the court of public opinion on such public officers as they deem fit, perhaps based on precedence of action, believability of accuser and credibility of the press. Indeed, the court of public opinion being one of two courts in our society (the other being the Law Courts) is by no means perfect, but has its norms and standards –which public officers, by virtue of their standing and calling, have subscribed to and should seek or get no waiver thereof. "He who hath no sin, let him/her cast the first stone". How many of you here on NVS not to talk about the entire Nigeria as a whole will embarass their fathers if caught in this act?
I conclude this part with this Yoruba phrase "Olorun a fun wa lomo ti o ma da'so ASIRI bo gbogbo wa ohhhh"- May the infinite God gives us all good children who will keep our secret info secret!
Cheers,
Wale Akin (A true Nigerian with total respect for the elders, NO MATTER WHAT!!) |
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