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Old Oct 30, 2009 , 04:22 AM   # 1 (permalink)
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I don’t know what Lateesha did this time but I see she’s in purg, I can’t remember seeing her with yellow nor red card….Am not challenging why she’s in purg. But I will like to state that - admin team enabled her…..

No that you need my opinion but it’s obvious the yellow/red cards are not effective and purg is extreme…. since we are not dealing with the law of Medes and Persian there’s a need to review your warning process if the votes of villagers count.

Take for instance the last outburst between Lateesha and the admin team, it went on for more than 8hours before she and Mswoman went at each other….to tell the truth it was unbelievable that it took that long for the thread to be closed.

In instances like that even a yellow card would not stop the exchange, but imagine if the villagers were temporary given “time out” say for a few hours. We all would have been spared the horror and the individuals will not even be able to complain about how unfair the judgment was ( why do I have red and she has yellow after all, it was two fighting blah, blah…) because they would have been cut off right in the middle of the exchange. After their time out they will be back …..and the world is just as it should be. Moreover, admin would be spared another round of “my time in purg thread”

We are adult and trying to control what adult say/write should be quite obvious by now that its next to impossible…..part of good leadership is not to stick to an idea when its obvious its not working but explore other means….

Let me spare you the obvious question ….why is it, just a particular few?...well the particular few are very active villagers and tend to give their opinion even on controversial topics….while the other group are villagers who show up once in a while or tend to stay away from controversial topics…

Do the math’s we all have our nuisances value….the question is, are you able to make it work to NVS advantage….

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Old Oct 30, 2009 , 11:02 AM   # 2 (permalink)
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Iye

I think you ask very incisive questions in this post, so let me try and comment on them, as best as i know. And please note that i am in no way speaking for the moderators here.

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I don’t know what Lateesha did this time but I see she’s in purg, I can’t remember seeing her with yellow nor red card….
I asked the moderators the same question, and after i was directed to the evidence, i will say that i understood. But i still made it very clear that the established rules of the site where not followed for her to end up in purg. You know, the sequence we all know... yellow card, red card, then purg.

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Am not challenging why she’s in purg. But I will like to state that - admin team enabled her…..
Ahhh.... you see, thats a slippery slope. If in your opinion she was enabled, what were the options open to the moderators? The very obvious is to muzzle at the slightest sign of katakata abi? And then the questions about free speech and no-rules-were-broken will be asked of them. We all would think that is unfair. I am trying here to let you see how difficult these decisions can sometimes be for moderators. Even when it is very clear where a particular thread is heading, their hands may be tied, in order to appear fair to all.

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Not that you need my opinion but it’s obvious the yellow/red cards are not effective and purg is extreme….
This is an interesting comment. Quite valid too. But i ask, on a forum where we are all adults, you really think yellow and red cards are ineffective? We're not talking children here. We're talking adults who run homes and businesses. That we have to be issued any sort of cards because of the way we behave in public, is in itself embarrassing, dont you think? And that we act in such a manner that we accumulate enough cards to end there is just....Yoruba people say "ilu tio s'ofin, ko s'ese", that is if a land has no laws, no one can be accused of committing a crime.

Originally Posted by Iye View Post
since we are not dealing with the law of Medes and Persian there’s a need to review your warning process if the votes of villagers count.
I think this is very true. Laws cannot be static. That is why even the constitution has amendments made to it. And one of things i told the moderators yesterday was, even though i personally agreed with the decision to put Lateesha in purg, I think the form rules should be modified to state that what she did should land you straight in purg.. do not stop at go, do not collect 200.

I am sure when they are ready, the moderators will publicly disclose the events which landed Lateesha in purg. We can then open a debate as to whether or not it was right.

Originally Posted by Iye View Post
In instances like that even a yellow card would not stop the exchange, but imagine if the villagers were temporary given “time out” say for a few hours. We all would have been spared the horror and the individuals will not even be able to complain about how unfair the judgment was ( why do I have red and she has yellow after all, it was two fighting blah, blah…) because they would have been cut off right in the middle of the exchange. After their time out they will be back …..and the world is just as it should be. Moreover, admin would be spared another round of “my time in purg thread”
You may be correct. And the moderators are in the best position to answer the question. But you are right, we would have been spared. But a temporary "time out" as you say would either have meant locking the parties out of that thread, or locking the entire thread or shutting the parties up by putting them in purg. The first two options are easily circumvented, they could just open another thread. The third would have led to this same conversation we are having. I tell you Iye, the life of a moderator ehn......

Originally Posted by Iye View Post
We are adult and trying to control what adult say/write should be quite obvious by now that its next to impossible…..part of good leadership is not to stick to an idea when its obvious its not working but explore other means….
Wo, you couldn't be more correct. But the words that jump out to me in your statement there is "adults".... you say we are adults. Ordinarily, that means something abi? I mean, typically as adults we should know what is, or what is not appropriate to say to each other, no? So, ideally, there should not be a need for anyone to "control" what we say. Note, that i say ideally.

Originally Posted by Iye View Post
Let me spare you the obvious question ….why is it, just a particular few?...well the particular few are very active villagers and tend to give their opinion even on controversial topics….while the other group are villagers who show up once in a while or tend to stay away from controversial topics
If you are saying that this "particular few"as you call them, are always involved in this situations because they are "Active" on the site, then i disagree with you. Being active on this site, does not equal getting infractions. The second bolded part of your comment i think is more akin to why. I do not think it is about commenting on controversial topics, and think it is more about HOW those comments are made.. at least in my opinion.

The third part of your statement is however, very true. Personally, i stay away from certain topics on this forum. Topics around religion and ethnicity. Partly because they always end the same way, everyone sticks to their beliefs and at the end if the day, everyone leaves with misconceptions they came in with, if not worse. And partly because, i usually learn more when i just observe what is being said. An example was an exchange between Fjord and Superego a few weeks ago on religion... i learnt so much on that thread. And also because i'm really not that smart.. and when i dont know much about a particular subject, i just shut up!

Originally Posted by Iye View Post
Do the math’s we all have our nuisances value….the question is, are you able to make it work to NVS advantage….
Hmmm..... good question. I better let Admin take that one.

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Old Oct 30, 2009 , 03:04 PM   # 3 (permalink)
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Oh Lala…thanks for taking the time to reply ….I appreciate…

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Old Nov 5, 2009 , 06:03 PM   # 4 (permalink)
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lateesha has re-entered the building

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Old Nov 5, 2009 , 08:24 PM   # 5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lateesha View Post
lateesha has re-entered the building
They vibe am picking up, is that….you still get purg hangover….you too quiet.

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Old Nov 5, 2009 , 08:27 PM   # 6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Iye View Post
They vibe am picking up, is that….you still get purg hangover….you too quiet.
Iye you wan comot her legs for mainroad?
You know hia say....sometimes your mind can be read, before you even have anything on it...stop it ahbeg...make she no come enta wahala.

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Old Nov 5, 2009 , 09:08 PM   # 7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Iye View Post
They vibe am picking up, is that….you still get purg hangover….you too quiet.

I am a changed woman
I have been washed by the precious blood
Somebaddy say to nu jah!

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Old Nov 5, 2009 , 09:14 PM   # 8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by liloldlady View Post
Iye you wan comot her legs for mainroad?
You know hia say....sometimes your mind can be read, before you even have anything on it...stop it ahbeg...make she no come enta wahala.
Ndi Igbo si na akwuna kawa nka ,ya eyiri akwa ocha si na owu mmiri mega ya.
Igbos say that when a harlot is getting old, she will begin to wear white cloth and tell people that she has mammy water spirit.

also Ndi Igbo si na onye ya na ekwensu n'eri nri n'eji foku ogologo
The one who eats with the devil,comes with a long fork.

also Obu condition mere Nne Enyinnaya ji nwee ike Ukwu

na condition wey make Enyinnaya's mother get big bakassi

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