Would you marry a very good lady, whose faith/race/tribe is/are different from yours?

Would you marry a very good lady, whose faith, race or tribe differs from yours?

For Sisters: Would you marry a very good man, whose faith, race or tribe differs from yours?

If your answer is YES; why?

If your answer is NO; ...

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[Eja]

I cannot answer since I am married to an entity from the 5th dimension of Alpha Centauri.

Why was there no provision for those of us who are married to extra-terrestrials in this very interesting quiz?

Even gan sef, my friend Mr Oopalopagos wey marry donkey no for fit answer dis una quiz - talk less of pesin laik me wey him iyawo come from outer space...

Na wa for you pipul O.

Anyway, I will pray for you all : May Zeus of the Thunderbolts open your eyes and permit you to see that there is beauty in all beings.

[Eja]

Originally Posted by Vade Mecum

Would you marry a very good lady, whose faith, race or tribe differs from yours?

If your answer is YES; why?

If your answer is NO; why?

Different "faith": If this is what her strength comes from - if it is a way of living that pushes her to excel in matters of the spirit, then I will have no problem with that faith.

Of course, it is also essential that the faith not be one that closes her mind to other ways of reaching towards the Almighty.

Different "race": No. Never have and never will mix up. I would like my descendants to look like me.

If I am one who mixes it and, if my offspring do what I did, then within two (or three) generations, my phenotype will be erased.

There will be no one left on Earth who got his/her features from me. No carbon copies. And, de oyinbo great-grandchildren may even change their name from Omo Eja to Jason....kai!!...

Different "tribe": Of course. We are both Africans after all.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Djister

I think VM's question in itself was mischievous and likely to 'inflame' rather than progress the current situation we find ourselves, in NVS and in Nigeria.

Originally Posted by Djister

gd evening. (lol!)

Djister

Aha! Precisimo.

I done said it already:

Next question from VadeMacum may just be along the line of:

"Would you shag your dawg?/Would you allow your Dawg to Shag you?"

Yes, as we indulge the questions, it gets to be more 'fun'.

L.H. Auspy.

[WaleAkin]

Originally Posted by Abraxas

I am ecstatically and happily married to a very good lady (Mama Marie-J), whose faith (extreme Roman Catholicism), and race (Yoruba-Brazilian-Hispanic Amazonian Aztec) are VERY different from mine.

Crase Man!

(Yoruba-Brazilian-Hispanic)

Hmnnnn..........Fondest memory!

[Ph3y]

So sowi....but those of us who are considering celibacy can't answer this question........next question pls...!!

[Soul Sista]

Not same faith, no marriage for me. Ethnicity, race, social background, money, class etc, etc other differences are negotiable. It may work for others; it won't work for me. To each his/her own.

[ISL]

class is not negotiable.........you either have it or you don't

[.bebi]

De gister,I am back.
Fost of all,U r supposing that ur definition of love and mine are the same,abi?
Well from what u have written,to u,love is blind.
For me,it is bespectacled.Inshort,it wears binoculars.I fall in love conditionally.Some conditions have to be met before I consider marriage.
My faith is of utmost importance to me,so how can we dwell peacefully if we dont agree on some fundamental issues and please dont tell me we can peacefully co-exist.To some people,something as minor as not being circumcised might not be an issue but for me,it is a REAL issue.
Believing in Jesus Christ IS VERY BASIC to me and very important(hey,Im not saying those who dont believe in Him are bad o and likewise those who do are good people,mbanu).
I am not going to go into too much detail cos I believe this faith thing has been talked about a lot on NVS,but it is very much who I am,so I wont take it lightly.
Another thing I take seriously is the man's attitude to hustling to put food on the table.If u r too lacadaisical about it,that is a problem and if u r the by hook or by crook type,u r definitely not for me.
All the other things mentioned by Vade,race,tribe and so on may not be a problem unless some strange practices are involved.Example,if Mr Man's family is into juju and he doesnt see it as a problem then au revoir.Even if he's igbo,au revoir.I am not playing like that.
Like pastor said,its not just the man u r marrying,its everything he stands for.If what he stands for is not in line with what I stand for,then there cant be a union.So my dear Subu's oko,love dey wear glasses.

[Vade Mecum]

Originally Posted by Soul Sista

Not same faith, no marriage for me. Ethnicity, race, social background, money, class etc, etc other differences are negotiable. It may work for others; it won't work for me. To each his/her own.

Thank you, Soul Sista

It is improper for a man and his wife to belong to different churches. Where parents attend different churches, family unity, co-operation, harmony and spiritual focus, necessary for an enabling environment to raise good christian children, would be absent.

While courting, folks should agree on a particular church, which would be their home church. Faith should serve as a spiritual foundation for any marriage. Therefore, it makes no sense for a couple living with their children under the same roof, to be seen as divorcees, in the area of faith.

Folks getting married, must realise, that they will have to show good examples to their children, in every area of life. Without doubt, spiritual foundation, comes first. Thus, I cannot encourage folks to get married, until they have agreed on a home church. Compromise in the area of faith is not acceptable. Children must see their parents, living a good example, in this regard.

[Djister]

Originally Posted by Vade Mecum

It is even improper for a man and his wife to belong to different churches.

Where parents attend different churches; family unity, co-operation, harmony and spiritual focus, necessary for an enabling environment to raise good christian children, would be absent.

While courting, folks should agree on a particular church, which would be their home church. Faith should serve as a spiritual foundation for any marriage. Therefore, it makes no sense for a couple living with their children under the same roof, to be seen as divorcees, in the area of faith.

Compromise in the area of faith is not acceptable. Children must see their parents, living a good example, in this regard.

O dear. Now you really got me going.

But firstly may I ask. Is there a 'specific' and 'proper' denomination for the practice of this Faith you promote?

Within the Christian Faith lies many divisions and approaches to the same God or are you declaring (falsely) ALL Christianity, and Christians, as one even in the face of glaring differences and disagreements?

The diversity and divisions I allude to in Christianity exist in ALL major Religious Faiths.

Pray tell, o ye man of God, which vehicle leadeth us to redemption? On which vehicle shall all the rest of us remain condemned to hades?

My dear Good Reverend Vade Mecum. EVERY single 'leader' of a 'church' claims the anointment of God to lead the flock to paradise.

Every man or woman who stands before a gathering of 2 claims to have the vision and knowledge of the true way forward.

Everyone who can read a line or two of the Good Book, claims to have the 'correct' interpretation of the Word and God's direction.

Everyone who cares to listen makes his/her own determination of what to believe or follow.

As you have made a choice to preach to the unconverted, many more have chosen what they believe to be the right path to salvation while retaining the same faith in a Supreme God.

Lest we get carried away with our own personal beliefs and personalised religious faiths, we must remember that NONE of us has the capability to render judgement as to what is the right way or not. That is the Special Preserve of a Supreme God. The day is known as Judgement Day.

As Soul Sista said, and I concur, each to his/her own. But to remain judgmental and prescriptive of what others do as wrong simply because it does not marry with what we would prefer, is simply attributing too much 'power' to oneself without the capacity to do so.

For your information, children with a broader perspective of the REAL world as it exists, stand a far better chance of surviving in it, than those brought up with a narrow view as taught by their parents. Again, each to his/her own.

Pastor VM, I assert that there are numerous other tangible reasons for declining a marriage offer on grounds of Culture (which does not make inference to tribe but to Practices), Background (which alludes to mutual understanding of issues and the ability to intellectually assess them), Class (as indicated by ISL, which points to the need to remove the hurdles of one party forever trying to catch up while not knowing how to do what is proper), Exposure (which is crucial in taking joint decisions as they impact the proposed family) and simple Good-Naturedness which is necessary for both parties to enjoy their union in relative peace.

Need we explore the machinations of those who demand a certain conformity to parameters which they themselves do not comprehend?

Do not underrate the fallibility of mankind for that is how God made him.

In your instance, I rest.

Djister

@.BEBI: You certainly got ONE thing right in your response:

I AM SUBU's OKO IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!

Gladly So,

Djister

[.bebi]

Only one thing?After my epistle?Djister,u have made me sad o,shay u know.

[Djister]

Don't mind me doctor!

You got the MOST IMPORTANT FACT correct!

It is on record that my affection for the medical profession knows no bounds.

Djister

[2plus2]

My husband is a practising catholic (his parish is Falomo) and I am a practising anglican (while in nigeria I attend the victoria fellowship church). Faith is personal, political and private. The deciding factor for entering into a marriage contract should be "shared values" between the couples. Sharing the same faith for some couples, is one of many factors that individuals use in selecting a partner, but in reality in my humble view is an irrelevance! Sorry. This is the reality for me.

[Vade Mecum]

[quote=Djister;275997]

O dear. Now you really got me going.

But firstly may I ask. Is there a 'specific' and 'proper' denomination for the practice of this Faith you promote?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." -- John 14:6 (NKJV)

Within the Christian Faith lies many divisions and approaches to the same God or are you declaring (falsely) ALL Christianity, and Christians, as one even in the face of glaring differences and disagreements?

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. -- John 1:14 (NKJV)

The diversity and divisions I allude to in Christianity exist in ALL major Religious Faiths.

"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." -- John 17:3 (NKJV)

Pray tell, o ye man of God, which vehicle leadeth us to redemption? On which vehicle shall all the rest of us remain condemned to hades?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." -- John 14:6 (NKJV)

My dear Good Reverend Vade Mecum. EVERY single 'leader' of a 'church' claims the anointment of God to lead the flock to paradise.Every man or woman who stands before a gathering of 2 claims to have the vision and knowledge of the true way forward. Everyone who can read a line or two of the Good Book, claims to have the 'correct' interpretation of the Word and God's direction.

Mark 9:40 "For he who is not against us is for us.

Everyone who cares to listen makes his/her own determination of what to believe or follow. As you have made a choice to preach to the unconverted, many more have chosen what they believe to be the right path to salvation while retaining the same faith in a Supreme God

Luke 11:23 "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters. (NASB ©1995)

John 15:1-5 -- (Jesus said,) "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing."

Lest we get carried away with our own personal beliefs and personalised religious faiths, we must remember that NONE of us has the capability to render judgement as to what is the right way or not. That is the Special Preserve of a Supreme God. The day is known as Judgement Day. As Soul Sista said, and I concur, each to his/her own. But to remain judgmental and prescriptive of what others do as wrong simply because it does not marry with what we would prefer, is simply attributing too much 'power' to oneself without the capacity to do so.

"For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." -- John 5:22,23 (NKJV)

For your information, children with a broader perspective of the REAL world as it exists, stand a far better chance of surviving in it, than those brought up with a narrow view as taught by their parents. Again, each to his/her own

Matthew 6:33
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you."

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God
And His righteousness
And all these things shall be added unto you
Hallelu, Hallelujah!
Man shall not live by bread alone
But by every word
That proceeds from the mouth of God
Hallelu, Hallelujah!

Ask and it shall be given unto you
Seek and ye shall find
Knock and the door shall be opened unto you
Hallelu, Hallelujah!

If the Son shall set you free
Ye shall be free indeed
Ye shall know the truth, and it shall set you free
Hallelu, Hallelujah!

Let your light so shine before men that they may see
Your good works and glorify
Your Father in heaven
Hallelu, Hallelujah!

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart
He shall direct thy paths
In all thy ways acknowledge Him
Hallelu, Hallelujah!

Pastor VM, I assert that there are numerous other tangible reasons for declining a marriage offer on grounds of Culture (which does not make inference to tribe but to Practices), Background (which alludes to mutual understanding of issues and the ability to intellectually assess them), Class (as indicated by ISL, which points to the need to remove the hurdles of one party forever trying to catch up while not knowing how to do what is proper), Exposure (which is crucial in taking joint decisions as they impact the proposed family) and simple Good-Naturedness which is necessary for both parties to enjoy their union in relative peace.

Read: 1 Corinthians 2:1-16

There are a lot of people searching for ‘human wisdom’. Whether it is through the education system or human philosophy. Whatever it may be, it’s all foolishness in God’s eyes, as 1 Corinthians 3:18-20 says. That’s not to say we don’t bother with education, but just to recognize that Godly wisdom is more desirable. What should we be running after, and desiring above all else? Proverbs 8:10-11 speaks of wisdom being better than rubies or pearls, and there is nothing to be compared. You cannot learn Godly wisdom in a University and get a degree in it. It can only come to a heart in right relationship with God, and is seeking it. The Holy Spirit that dwells within us leads us into all truth. ‘…For the [Holy] Spirit searches diligently, exploring and examining everything, even sounding the profound and bottomless things of God [the divine counsels, and things hidden and beyond man’s scrutiny]. (V:10).

Two things were impressed upon me as a new Christian. The first thing was that the word of God, His teachings, is spiritually discerned. A person cannot possibly understand spiritual truths, unless they have the Holy Spirit within, teaching them the hidden meanings, (1 Cor.2:13-14). The human mind, no matter how intelligent cannot comprehend spiritual truths.

The second thing that was impressed upon me was that God raises up what the world considers foolish to shame the wise 1 Cor.1:25-28. This really stood out for me, as I was what the world would have considered foolish, not being well educated. But God chose me, and He chose you too. He can fill us with His wisdom and put worldly wisdom to shame. Let us desire and run after Godly wisdom. By doing so we will never be disappointed.

You may like to read the poem God's Wisdom; Man's Folly

By M.S.Lowndes

For it is written, I will baffle and render useless and destroy the learning of the learned and the philosophy of the philosophers and the cleverness of the clever and the discernment of the discerning; I will frustrate and nullify [them] and bring [them] to nothing. Where is the wise man (the philosopher)? Where is the scribe( the scholar)? Where is the investigator (the logician, the debater) of this present time and age? Has not God shown up the nonsense and the folly of this world’s wisdom? ~ 1 Corinthians 1:19-20

Lord your wisdom I desire
More than costly jewels
Fill me with your Godly wisdom
So I may do your will

By M.S.Lowndes

[Luchi]

Originally Posted by Vade Mecum

Thank you, Soul Sista

It is improper for a man and his wife to belong to different churches. Where parents attend different churches, family unity, co-operation, harmony and spiritual focus, necessary for an enabling environment to raise good christian children, would be absent.

Da Bishop i disagree with you on this bcos i have seen some families where parents worship in different churches yet the whole family is happy and in unity whereas in some families that worship together the reverse is the case. In some families too, the man of the house hardly go to church yet peace reigns supreme. I think the bottomline is the understanding between couples.

[emj]

Originally Posted by Vade Mecum

Would you marry a very good lady, whose faith, race or tribe differs from yours?

For Sisters: Would you marry a very good man, whose faith, race or tribe differs from yours?

If your answer is YES; why?

If your answer is NO; why?

Ehermm, depends on what he's offering(not monetry)...emj in mercenary mode
Forget about da color of the bolekaja.....juess enter.....what exactly do u mean by faith...u've forgotten that we are all faithless.

Tribe....as in having tribal marks....hmmm
Race as in chinko....hmmm
Good.....who/what is good about some men dis days(apart from ISL...and no one else)

PS>>>......if u read and take exception to my comment, feel free to clip my ears>>>>>>TGIFCheerios

[Vade Mecum]

Originally Posted by Luchi

Da Bishop i disagree with you on this bcos i have seen some families where parents worship in different churches yet the whole family is happy and in unity whereas in some families that worship together the reverse is the case. In some families too, the man of the house hardly go to church yet peace reigns supreme. I think the bottomline is the understanding between couples.

1 Corinthians 14:33 (King James Version)

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Christian parents must not only preach unity to their offsprings, but must also exemplify that unity in the conduct of their daily affairs, before their children. Where a father and his wife are members of different churches, the message to the children therefrom; cannot convey the message of our faith in a way that will shape them, into lifelong disciples of Jesus Christ

A father as the head of the family must be able to establish some regularity and structure viz-a-viz mentoring his family in accordance with scriptural standards. You cannot properly instill christian discipline in your family and empower your family with a proper knowledge of the word of God, when every body belongs to various religious denominations.

I strongly believe, that a scenario where members of the same family are affiliated to different churches, is simply a set up for confusion. Raising a christian family must be done purposefully. Parents have the responsibility to raise their children with christian discipline and instructions, that are in accordance with the Lord's word. It is proper for parents to bring up their children under the preaching of the Gospel in the family church and not for Johnny, Chimaroke, Chimamanda, Shehu, Kinke and Kike to return home every sunday, wednesday and friday with different perspectives from different congregations. Parents must jointly raise their brood in a family church; that the parents also attend as their family church.

Parents should teach their children the things of God at every opportunity. Parents should engage in christian activities with their children both collectively and individually. The best place and time to do the foregoing with the children on a consistent basis, would be as part of your local family church; and not as scattered members of various churches.

[Djister]

Vade Mecum,

This subject would have made for excellent conversation and very informative for the various sexes, tribes, races and people that constitute NVS if you did not, as you have made this and the Man-to-Man section, a platform for recruitment into your religious beliefs.

I believe that with greater respect for the varied people and possible opinions possible on NVS, we would have had more 'exciting' discussions than answer your posted questions for your sunday-preaching research benefits.

These questions, when reviewed and the commentary you offer are nothing more than an elicitation of guinea pigs for religious research.

You quote the Good Book extensively, as if the rest of us are not capable of deciphering the words or meanings therein.

I salute your dedication to the 'conversion of infidels' campaign.

Djister

[depirate]

@ ISL

I think we mean social class (class as you mean is independent of social class and i agree wholeheartedly with you there - she either has it or she does not (the difficult part is knowing if she thinks YOU have it)

@ Djister,

To follow on from your comment below

You quote the Good Book extensively, as if the rest of us are not capable of deciphering the words or meanings therein

You forgot - or take it as gospel truth.

@ emj,

How you come take forget me - abi wetin ISL carri? (Depirate clipping - or is it nibbling - ears)

Depirate

[.bebi]

When we talk about faith here,I assume we are talking about different religions not denominations.Correct me if Im worng.