Peter Odili sue BBC for Defamation of character

[Toku.A]

Originally Posted by Oru-Ama

Cecilia Ibru? God will not forgive that woman for what she did to former staff of International Trust Bank Plc, which her bank Oceanic Bank acquired. One would think, that woman is a mother. Behind the comely motherly mien, lies a very wicked and unrepentant woman. Todate, the staff of the bank which her Oceanic acquired have not been finally settled. Cecilia and her Oceanic threw peanuts at them and told them to go jump into the lagoon.

As long as God liveth, that woman will pay for the suffering and hardship inflicted on families by her demeanted decision on former staff of ITB, together with a certain man called Iyabi.

I think you are quite right with the treatment of staff of acquired banks. You should ask the staff and customers of the other banks it is even a more gory story. That's naija for you.

[magma]

Make una thank you for the "correction" regarding whether or not Mrs Ibru answered the questions put to her well.

It is very easy for people to come here and talk about articulation or inarticulation. If them put some of us wey dey write so eloquently here in front of camera, them go fit speak with the articulation wey them dey take write? Person call person wey dey into banking begin dey ask am political questions ... the mistake wey she make be say she been dey attempt to answer questions wey she no get vast knowledge about. She should have redirected the line of questioning. Abi na set up? Is she responsible for the level of poverty in Nigeria? If her bank use all their money do microfinance, will that give us good roads, schools, light, water, decent housing for all, which would make life bearable even for those wey no get shi shi for pocket?

She can not be a total mumu and be the CEO of the bank, regardless of whom she married. Abi I no hear/read well when them say she receive award for America too? ... Perhaps a thought may be spared for why, in the first place, Hard Talk talked to her.

How come no one said anything derogatory about the reasoning and intellect of the interviewer when he suggested that if the bank she heads (as if she represents the Nigerian government) was serious about poverty alleviation, then they should go and seek out people to give micro finance to, to which , to my mind, her answer was very very apt.


At least make una give her some credit if not grade A. E no easy, anyhow.

[magma]

Originally Posted by salstep

Since when did you have to go into an examination armed with the questions? There is a reason why the program is called HardTalk.
She was asked a few questions on microfinance. i don't recall her giving an intelligent answer.

BTW, the questions weren't political. It really was about Oceanic Bank helping serving politicians to loot the nation. Unfortunately.......she wasn't clever enough to pick on it.

mmm ... na so?

If you think that one does not have to go into an examination armed with the questions ... what do you think about someone going into an exam without knowing the subject ... you read french then go for english exam ... how articulate will your answers be, even if they are correct ...

How much of the interview was about Oceanic and how they help politicians loot the nation sef ... abi e get the part wey no show for my own download?

[salstep]

Originally Posted by magma

Make una thank you for the "correction" regarding whether or not Mrs Ibru answered the questions put to her well.

It is very easy for people to come here and talk about articulation or inarticulation. If them put some of us wey dey write so eloquently here in front of camera, them go fit speak with the articulation wey them dey take write? Person call person wey dey into banking begin dey ask am political questions ... the mistake wey she make be say she been dey attempt to answer questions wey she no get vast knowledge about. She should have redirected the line of questioning. Abi na set up? Is she responsible for the level of poverty in Nigeria? If her bank use all their money do microfinance, will that give us good roads, schools, light, water, decent housing for all, which would make life bearable even for those wey no get shi shi for pocket?

She can not be a total mumu and be the CEO of the bank, regardless of whom she married. Abi I no hear/read well when them say she receive award for America too? ... Perhaps a thought may be spared for why, in the first place, Hard Talk talked to her.

How come no one said anything derogatory about the reasoning and intellect of the interviewer when he suggested that if the bank she heads (as if she represents the Nigerian government) was serious about poverty alleviation, then they should go and seek out people to give micro finance to, to which , to my mind, her answer was very very apt.


At least make una give her some credit if not grade A. E no easy, anyhow.

Magma, u no no wetin u dey talk about. No b akara dem dey sell here.

[salstep]

Oceanic Bank help Ibori thief money. It is also helping Odili hide he loot. Plus a lot of the other south south governors dey transfer their state allocation through oceanic. If she Mumu go the program thinking say na AM express, na her fault.

[Balo]

I would venture to criticise both sides featured on Hardtalk. The guy was wrong to have directed questions which do not fall within Mrs Ibru's jurisdiction at her and in my opinion, knew she was defending the "indenfensible" and Mrs Ibru was in my opinion not particularly intelligent in her response. Whilst no aspersions are cast as to her competence as a Banking CEO, the fact of the matter is that she could have parried the questions by directing the BBC towards the appropriate authorities rather than try to answer for them.

As per Ex-Gov Odili's proposed suit, let's just say we will cross that ocean once if we get there - which I doubt.

[magma]

Thank you Bbalogun.

Salstep ... wetin concern akara and the thing wey I talk?

Which part of that my post which you quoted be akara talk?

I beg oh ...

[IZONERE]

Originally Posted by BBalogun

I would venture to criticise both sides featured on Hardtalk. The guy was wrong to have directed questions which do not fall within Mrs Ibru's jurisdiction at her and in my opinion, knew she was defending the "indenfensible" and Mrs Ibru was in my opinion not particularly intelligent in her response. Whilst no aspersions are cast as to her competence as a Banking CEO, the fact of the matter is that she could have parried the questions by directing the BBC towards the appropriate authorities rather than try to answer for them.

As per Ex-Gov Odili's proposed suit, let's just say we will cross that ocean once if we get there - which I doubt.

Simple. She should have said 'I am not in the right position to answer those questions. That is a matter for the Nigerian Government.' Gbam. No need to defend people we all know are big crooks. She actually answered the questions that were about business quite well.

[salstep]

I suppose she had a bad day in the office. i expect more from someone with B.Sc. Degree in Sociology from North East London University and a Masters of Philosophy from the London school of Oriental and African studies.

[dem]

Originally Posted by salstep

Just watch the video, the woman is barely literate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/pr.../ibru23oct.ram

Glad I watched the video myself and not swallow the editorialised comment highlighted above and Daily Trust's accounts. Barely literate? What cheek, Salstep! In fact she came across as very literate and rightly protective of her business. Folks, she is the CEO of a private bank, not the government; so her primary function is to ensure her bank stays profitable and ahead.

Now, this is not to say that I bought into everything she said (eg her comments on the elections were heartbreaking). But there was nothing her bank was accussed of that is not the norm (unfortunately) globally. Shall we proceed to Switzerland and close down all their banks then?!! Common!

What I cannot abide is the haughty attitude of some Western commentators who think that Africa has to do what is rarely done in their countries in terms of business practices. I thought we are in the era of competitive market economy as defined by the victorious West. Socialism/communism is dead. Let the developed economies engage the Chinese in their "trade protection" war. They should stop tryin to draft us into fighting their battles for them, afterall we know what the WTO is doing to African & other developing economies.

Overall, I thought this was a good and competent performance by Mrs Ibru.

[dem]

Originally Posted by salstep

Watch Martha Karua - Kenya's Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs, compare to madam Ibru.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/pr...karua27mar.ram

Unfair comparison. Karua is a govt appointed minister and a trainned lawyer to boot - presumably. Mrs Ibru runs the "family's" business. Only qualifications required (in most cases) are family ties and business acumen. Well, we know she's doing exceedingly well on both front as the position of her bank - in a relatively short time - speaks more than enough.

[Wind]

This is just crazy. I am beginning to see a whole huge bad belle here. by those who initiated this thread and by the sectional biased publication, "the daily trust".

The article therein which is so incoherent , confusing and misleading. Hard to believe that passed thru newspaper editors.
I am sure this woman probably went to that interview thinking she would be answering banking questions and the economy vis a vis her business. Instead she was railroaded (hopefully deliberately or the IQ of the interviewer is suspect).

And now she is being compared to a politician in government whose duty it is to address the public and with a full pr department.

I guess most here were jostling for her to become the next Rosa Parks and criticize the government and other persons.

Have you wondered why the BBC is being sued and she is not?

If a lot of armchair critics here were in her shoes, their careless utterances would have sent their company’s stock price tumbling down with a lineup of potential law suits both from investors and the defamed.

[Akinyi]

I am so glad that the initiator of this thread did initiate this thread. Not because the initiator made a damning point against Ibru but because the thread brought out people like Wind and BBalogun.

I have been wondering about the whereabouts of BBalogun and many others. I have been worried. I feared. I feard that an islamist may have gotten to BB. But, here he is. BBalogun, I am so glad to read from you. Glad is not even the word. Am elated. And Wind, you still smart as ever-you yeye man.

IF I HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME, OR IF YOU DO, PLS START A THREAD ON THE OLD TIMERS LIKE YOU. Nice to read you both.

[Meticulous]

This statement "... I am beginning to see a whole huge bad belle here....If a lot of armchair critics here were in her shoes, their careless utterances would have sent their company’s stock price tumbling down with a lineup of potential law suits both from investors and the defamed..." by Wind, is ridiculous!

...Or perhaps it is just your standards for a bank executive that are extremely low.

Originally Posted by Wind

This is just crazy. I am beginning to see a whole huge bad belle here. by those who initiated this thread and by the sectional biased publication, "the daily trust"...............

[Nigerian]

Originally Posted by Meticulous

This statement "... I am beginning to see a whole huge bad belle here....If a lot of armchair critics here were in her shoes, their careless utterances would have sent their company’s stock price tumbling down with a lineup of potential law suits both from investors and the defamed..." by Wind, is ridiculous!

I don't quite agree with your observation. I think the dude is correct to insinuate that company executives must be careful to not run their mouths during press conferences.

[Meticulous]

And what's your definition of "run their mouths".... ?

Is expressing thanks to God that 40% of Nigerians have had to give bribes in the past 12 months, your definition of not "running one's mouth"?

BTW, this wasn't a press conference. This was "Hardtalk"! Not some fake Q & A with "arrangeee" questions. Beside, she wanted to be there.

Come on now...!

Originally Posted by Nigerian

I don't quite agree with your observation. I think the dude is correct to insinuate that company executives must be careful to not run their mouths during press conferences.

[Nigerian]

Originally Posted by Meticulous

And what's your definition of "run their mouths".... ?

Is expressing thanks to God that 40% of Nigerians have had to give bribes in the past 12 months, your definition of not "running one's mouth"?

BTW, this wasn't a press conference. This was "Hardtalk"! Not some fake Q & A with "arrangeee" questions. Beside, she wanted to be there.

Come on now...!

A company executive would be running their mouth when they start opining on controversial political issues during public interviews (be it during press conferences or on some talk show). Astute executives never fall into such cheap traps. Besides, my prior (or current) comments were/are not necessarily limited to this interview.

Anyway, sounds like you have an axe to grind with this lady and trust me, I have no intention of getting in your way. By all means, please knock yourself out.

[salstep]

Originally Posted by Meticulous

And what's your definition of "run their mouths".... ?

Is expressing thanks to God that 40% of Nigerians have had to give bribes in the past 12 months, your definition of not "running one's mouth"?

BTW, this wasn't a press conference. This was "Hardtalk"! Not some fake Q & A with "arrangeee" questions. Beside, she wanted to be there.

Come on now...!

Meticulous, Some times i do wonder how nigerians access a persons level of intelligence. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but how can any educated individual watch the video and claim she gave a good account of herself is beyond me. No wonder the country is in a rot. The 40% qoute sums it all.


All this rubbish about she was asked political questions. Her bank is in cohort with the government looting the economy. It has taken an oyinbo man to ask hard hitting questions that would get an NTA presenter the sack or possibly time in jail.

[Son of the Delta]

Abeg make una no make me laugh! Does Peter Odili have a character in the first place? Some Nigerian politicians will never stop making a fool of themselves!

[Wind]

Originally Posted by salstep

Meticulous, Some times i do wonder how nigerians access a persons level of intelligence. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but how can any educated individual watch the video and claim she gave a good account of herself is beyond me. No wonder the country is in a rot. The 40% qoute sums it all.


All this rubbish about she was asked political questions. Her bank is in cohort with the government looting the economy. It has taken an oyinbo man to ask hard hitting questions that would get an NTA presenter the sack or possibly time in jail.

So Salstep, as an exec of a bank you would:
1. Refuse to accept deposit from individual(s) whom have neither been indicted, arraigned nor convicted in any court of law.
2. Go on record as calling said individuals “corrupt”, “thieves” etc.

As someone so quick at determining the intelligence level of others from a couple minutes interview (especially those who have clearly proven themselves) and coming to a conclusion that her bank was in cohorts with Odili to loot Rivers State(which was neither suggested nor inferable from that interview), don’t you think yours might be becoming suspect here?
......just an innocent question