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[QUOTE=Bunch17;401751]But there is already a civil war in Nigeria. The Yaradua camp were successful at the skirmishes in EFCC in forcing the Ota general's troops to retreat. In retaliation, the Ota general's forces targeted Jimi of Oghara. In desparation, the Yaradua camp, lunched a diversionary attack in Asaba hoping that this will cover the retreat of their forces from Jimi of Oghara.
Unfortunately, the Ota camp are at an advantage here as Jimi seems to have fallen foul of other forces.
Seriously folks, we are almost close to a civil war if we look at this more clearly. The mistake we are making here is thinking that the war will be fought between Nations while it is actually being fought within Nations as we speak. Except of course in Northern Nigeria. Those folks tend to be more intelligent and are less likely to be self destructive.[/QUOTE] Very true....... 
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Originally Posted by N.A.R.  Now help me out here. I thought the Supreme court is the highest and last law of the land? Once a case has been ruled on at that Court could can you appeal again? Can the Court of Appeal set aside and overturn the ruling of the superior court?
Nigeria is a supremely flexible 'institution'. haha.
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Originally Posted by N.A.R. I have just read Okey Ndibe's latest article on the Anambra crisis. It seems so many are focused on "part" of the issue and not the full story. I am struck by something he wrote:
If 45 men and women are seeking to be governor and this is just from one party the PDP, then there is something seriously wrong with that state. Rather than just focus on Andy Uba and Soludo, what exactly is wrong with the state? Is it possible that the state historically has never had its government serve the people?
What is so wrong with the state that Ikemba starts talking about civil war again? Can anybody tell us rather than just shouting fire on the mountain all about?
I would have thought the answer to that question is self evident N.A.R. I mean has Nigeria as a whole ever had its government serve the people talk less of the states within it.
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Originally Posted by Bunch17 But there is already a civil war in Nigeria. The Yaradua camp were successful at the skirmishes in EFCC in forcing the Ota general's troops to retreat. In retaliation, the Ota general's forces targeted Jimi of Oghara. In desparation, the Yaradua camp, lunched a diversionary attack in Asaba hoping that this will cover the retreat of their forces from Jimi of Oghara.
Unfortunately, the Ota camp are at an advantage here as Jimi seems to have fallen foul of other forces.
Seriously folks, we are almost close to a civil war if we look at this more clearly. The mistake we are making here is thinking that the war will be fought between Nations while it is actually being fought within Nations as we speak.
Except of course in Northern Nigeria. Those folks tend to be more intelligent and are less likely to be self destructive.
You're right Bunch, the civil war has been ongoing actually since and its for the spoil of the state in particular and the nation in general. It has just escalated and taken some intriguing dimension including the kidnap of Soludo's old man.
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Originally Posted by N.A.R. I have just read Okey Ndibe's latest article on the Anambra crisis. It seems so many are focused on "part" of the issue and not the full story. I am struck by something he wrote:
If 45 men and women are seeking to be governor and this is just from one party the PDP, then there is something seriously wrong with that state. Rather than just focus on Andy Uba and Soludo, what exactly is wrong with the state? Is it possible that the state historically has never had its government serve the people?
What is so wrong with the state that Ikemba starts talking about civil war again? Can anybody tell us rather than just shouting fire on the mountain all about?
NAR,you asked whats wrong with anambra state.and i say NOTHING is wrong,except that it is the state where everything is seen in the context of BUSINESS,including the governorship!and have you seen any igbo man investing in business that wont yield profits?so,the rush to buy forms is not altruistic but to invest in business and reap bountiful harvests.chikena! 
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Originally Posted by agensheku NAR,you asked whats wrong with anambra state.and i say NOTHING is wrong,except that it is the state where everything is seen in the context of BUSINESS,including the governorship!and have you seen any igbo man investing in business that wont yield profits?so,the rush to buy forms is not altruistic but to invest in business and reap bountiful harvests.chikena!
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Originally Posted by N.A.R. If 45 men and women are seeking to be governor and this is just from one party the PDP, then there is something seriously wrong with that state. Rather than just focus on Andy Uba and Soludo, what exactly is wrong with the state? Is it possible that the state historically has never had its government serve the people?
What is so wrong with the state that Ikemba starts talking about civil war again? Can anybody tell us rather than just shouting fire on the mountain all about?
No surprises there. It's the agbenu factor at work.
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Originally Posted by valteena I would have thought the answer to that question is self evident N.A.R. I mean has Nigeria as a whole ever had its government serve the people talk less of the states within it. Valteena,
Ironically, when it comes to state governors, many state governors are the darlings of their people. Fashola, Donald Duke, Balarabe Musa, Abubakar Rimi, Jakande, Lam Adeshida et al. When I look back, many states have not had as much agitation for the governor as it seems Anambra has now. Now this is not to say that all states are saints. After all, it was in Lagos that Funsho Williams was killed. Then look at what happened (And always happens) in Oyo State. In fact I think , Oyo may be the parallel of Anambra in the West!
Most states seem to have one or two power brokers calling the shots. Dats Naija politics for you: Adedibu in Oyo, Baba Bigi Belle in Ogun, Tinubu in Lagos, Saraki in Kwara, The Sultan in Sokoto, Kaduna Mafia in most northern states, et al. Hence 45 candidates vying for the top post in the state simple seems rather strange, and within one party. When you add Peter Obi the incumbent and then Ngige who I think is running from the PPA and all the others how many are actually seeking the position?
The other troubling issue is there must be feelers out amongst "those that know" that the PDP is going to go all out to retake the state hence, everyone wants to be on the parties ticket. So much for those who said the PDP is imploding.
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I tire... Twenty seven political parties have, in compliance with the deadline stipulated by law, collected Forms CF001 and CF002B (Affidavit of personal particulars and Parties’) list of candidates respectively for the Anambra Governorship election scheduled for February, 6, 2010 today (8th October, 2009).
The political parties are: S/N ACRONYM POLITICAL PARTIES
1 AC ACTION CONGRESS
2 ADC AFRICAN DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS
3 ANPP ALL NIGERIA PEOPLES PARTY
4 APGA ALL PROGRESSIVE GRAND ALLIANCE
5 ALP AFRICAN LIBERATION PARTY
6 ARP AFRICAN RENAISSANCE PARTY
7 BNPP BETTER NIGERIA PROGRESSIVE PARTY
8 CDC CONGRESS FOR DEMOCRATIC CHANGE
9 CPN COMMUNITY PARTY OF NIGERIA
10 CPP CITIZENS POLULAR PARTY
11 HDP HOPE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
12 LP LABOUR PARTY
13 NAP NIGERIA ADVANCED PARTY
14 NCP NATIONAL CONSCIENCE PARTY
15 NDP NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY
16 NMDP NATIONAL MAJORITY DEMOCRATIC PARTY
17 NMPP NATIONAL MOVEMENT OF PROGRESSIVE PARTY
18 NNPP NATIONAL NIGERIA PEOPLES PARTY
19 NSDP NATIONAL SOLIDARITY DEMOCRATIC PARTY
20 PDP PEOPLES DEMOCRATIC PARTY
21 PMP PEOPLES MANDATE PARTY
22 PPA PROGRESSIVE PEOPLES ALLIANCE
23 PPP PEOPLES PROGRESSIVE PARTY
24 PRP PEOPLES REDEMPTION PARTY
25 RPN REPUBLICAN PARTY OF NIGERIA
26 UDP UNITED DEMOCRATIC PARTY
27 UNPP UNITED NIGERIA PEOPLES PARTY
The deadline for the submission of completed Forms CF001 and CF002B is tomorrow 6p.m. (Friday, October 9, 2009) as provided by the Electoral Act, 2006.
SIGNED: EMMANUEL I. UMENGER
ACTING DIRECTOR, PUBLIC AFFAIRS
8TH OCTOBER 2009
Though I know each state too will have 27 chop chop contestants in waiting. By the way, I though Peter Obi won his Supreme court case to serve his full four years in office. has it been four years already? Apparently INEC has answered my question: The Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) has served notice that the election into the office of Governor of Anambra state shall hold on Saturday, 6th February 2010.
The Commission said it had scheduled the governorship election following the Supreme Court decision in the Appeal N0 Sc. 123/2007: Mr Peter Obi V INEC of June 14, 2007 and the powers conferred on it by the Constitution and the Electoral Act 2006.
The Appeal Court ruled that His Excellency, Mr. Peter Obi’s tenure as Governor of Anambra state would expire on the 17th of March 2010.
In a statement issued and signed by the Commission’s Secretary, Abdullahi Kaugama, INEC said that all registered Political Parties were entitled to participate and sponsor candidates for the election.
The Commission affirmed its resolve to conduct a credible election and appealed to Political Parties to strictly apply the provisions of all relevant laws governing the election.
INEC drew the attention of the public, particularly the registered Political Parties, Candidates and Associations to Section 221 of the Constitution which prohibited associations other than political parties from canvassing for votes for any candidate or contributing to the funds of any political party or election expenses of any candidate.
The Commission further requested the Parties and Candidates to carry out their campaigns within the times stipulated in the Electoral Act 2006 according to the released timetable and schedule of activities.
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Sorry N.A.R...a few corrections.
Lam Adesina is not that popular in Oyo state o! Infact by the time elections came in 2003 the people could not wait to see the back of him. Allegations of corruption, non performance and flamboyant lifestyle of his family reduced the possibility of him being returned. Infact that, along with the ill thought out decision to partner with Obj in 2003 ensured the ousting of all but one AD governor in 2003.
Now the people have tasted PDP - Awoism has returned and people like Lam Adesina have been forgiven though I am not sure if the people have forgotten enough to trust them once again with political power. Right now, his son is gunning for a seat in the HoR, so this can be used as a test.
Baba biggie belle does not call the shots in Ogun o!! Ogun is currently and has been since Awo's time no-man's land with different forces vying for "control". This is why you have modern day ogbologbo ogidi ole (serious looter) claiming to be today's Awo.
Ngige is running on Action Congress platform.
As for Anambra.....my prayers are with the people......why anyone will wish to turn the state into a theatre of war in this day and age is beyond me. Is the will to " serve" the people that strong? Originally Posted by N.A.R. Valteena,
Ironically, when it comes to state governors, many state governors are the darlings of their people. Fashola, Donald Duke, Balarabe Musa, Abubakar Rimi, Jakande, Lam Adeshida et al. When I look back, many states have not had as much agitation for the governor as it seems Anambra has now. Now this is not to say that all states are saints. After all, it was in Lagos that Funsho Williams was killed. Then look at what happened (And always happens) in Oyo State. In fact I think , Oyo may be the parallel of Anambra in the West!
Most states seem to have one or two power brokers calling the shots. Dats Naija politics for you: Adedibu in Oyo, Baba Bigi Belle in Ogun, Tinubu in Lagos, Saraki in Kwara, The Sultan in Sokoto, Kaduna Mafia in most northern states, et al. Hence 45 candidates vying for the top post in the state simple seems rather strange, and within one party. When you add Peter Obi the incumbent and then Ngige who I think is running from the PPA and all the others how many are actually seeking the position?
The other troubling issue is there must be feelers out amongst "those that know" that the PDP is going to go all out to retake the state hence, everyone wants to be on the parties ticket. So much for those who said the PDP is imploding.
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Originally Posted by agensheku NAR,you asked whats wrong with anambra state.and i say NOTHING is wrong,except that it is the state where everything is seen in the context of BUSINESS,including the governorship!and have you seen any igbo man investing in business that wont yield profits?so,the rush to buy forms is not altruistic but to invest in business and reap bountiful harvests.chikena!
All these fake saints sef. Give them the opportunity they will steal you blind like a rat. Wasn't Obasanjo a self proclaimed born again? Yoruba/Hausa man no like money yet they are the most corrupt Nigerians anyone can imagine.
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Ojukwu should go and sit down. No wars until further notice. Can't afford to lose my 50 million worth of houses outside Igboland
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Saharareporters investigations have revealed that the fear of mass uprising and breakdown of law and order in Anambra and neighboring states led the five-judge panel of the Enugu Division of the Court of Appeal to cancel its plan to sell the governorship of Anambra State to Emmanuel Nnamdi (Andy) Uba in exchange for millions of dollars in bribe.
Mr. Uba, who stole billions of dollars while serving as a domestic aide to former President Olusegun Obasanjo, has made relays of trips to various courts trying to buy his way to the governorship. In 2007, Mr. Obasanjo and Professor Maurice Iwu, fraudulent chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission, foisted Uba as governor after an election that was universally described as one of the worst in history.
As a sign of his confidence that today’s ruling would go his way, Mr. Uba had hired an Ijele masquerade and the Atilogwu, Nkpokiti and Igba Enyi dancers as well as loads of mercenary “supporters” whom he transported to Enugu to “stage a celebration once he was declared ‘governor-in-waiting,’” according to two sources within his close circle. The cultural troupes had to return empty handed as the court adjourned seating till Friday November 13 2009.
A source close to one of the justices hearing the case disclosed that reports by Saharareporters about the scandalous arrangement had thrown the panel into confusion.
A security source with the State Security Service (SSS) also told Saharareporters that the case had generated such a charged atmosphere that the agency dispatched a report to Aso Rock warning of possible widespread violence should the court follow through on its plan to enthrone Uba as reported by us. “We feared that there might be serious trouble in Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi states,” said the source.
In the wake of the appellate court’s corrupt deal with Mr. Uba, a secondary school failure who falsely claims to possess a PhD, former Biafran leader, Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu, last week warned that the imposition of Uba could precipitate war. The SSS source said that Mr. Ojukwu’s warning had sharpened the tense atmosphere, adding that even though the Inspector General of Police moved in a major contingent of police officers throughout Anambra, the security agents remained fearful that they would not be able to contain the spate of violence likely to follow any pro-Uba verdict.
A relative of Justice Ngwuta, who hails from Ebonyi, had told Saharareporters that his community had received warnings that both the justice as well as his relatives would face reprisals if the court announced Uba as a so-called governor-in-waiting. The relative said one of the anti-Uba groups “told us to notify Justice Ngwuta that he will be made to pay for installing Uba even if he flies off to the sky to spend the money he has collected from Uba.”
Tension was palpable in Anambra state as the Nigerian police flooded the state with special anti-riot policemen sent in from Abuja. Another contingent of heavily armed policemen camped outside the tribunal in Enugu with an armored personnel carrier. Our reporter on the scene said the policemen did not seem aware that today’s session was cancelled.
Justice Ngwuta, head of the five-person panel of justices, has a bizarre precedent of reversing a Supreme Court ruling. He is a principal player in the scheme to smuggle Uba into office. Others involved in the plot are Uba’s lawyer, Wole Olanipekun, retiring President of the appellate court, Justice Umaru Abdullahi (to whom the bribe money has been entrusted to be disbursed to cooperating justices after the announcement of the verdict), and Maurice Iwu who was nominated for the INEC post by Uba.
A source at the Presidency in Abuja told Saharareporters that the security reports emanating from the Southeast forced Aso Rock to reach the President of the Court of Appeal, Umaru Abdullahi, and request that he signal the panel not to seat today as planned. Hence appeal panel led by Justice Ngwuta postponed its sitting.
Saharareporters also learned that two of the judges involved in the deal also chickened out from a meeting scheduled for Enugu last night to finalize the ruling. Justice Jean Omokri sent in word that he had diarrhea while Justice Aboki detoured to Owerri where he claimed that he would be attending the valedictory event being held for Abdullahi, the court’s outgoing president.
A judicial source told us that Justice Abdullahi’s presence in Owerri was part of a calculated plan “to be near the theatre of action and to remotely control the Uba deal.” Abdullahi, whose notoriety for corruption has earned him the widespread derision of many lawyers, is said to have embraced the Uba deal as an opportunity to reap a huge financial windfall just before his exit from the court.
A source within the court told Saharareporters that Justice Ngwuta was livid with rage when he found out that two of the justices with whom he had cut a deal to read a majority decision in favor of Uba refused to show up at the final judges’ conference. Afraid that he was being set up to take the hit from the controversial case, he alerted Uba’s lawyer, Mr. Olanipekun, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, who had set up the entire deal.
Olanipekun did not show up in court today after Justice Ngwuta forewarned him that the verdict could not be delivered today as scheduled. www.saharareporters.com
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Originally Posted by VOR Sorry N.A.R...a few corrections.
Lam Adesina is not that popular in Oyo state o! Infact by the time elections came in 2003 the people could not wait to see the back of him. Allegations of corruption, non performance and flamboyant lifestyle of his family reduced the possibility of him being returned. Infact that, along with the ill thought out decision to partner with Obj in 2003 ensured the ousting of all but one AD governor in 2003.
Now the people have tasted PDP - Awoism has returned and people like Lam Adesina have been forgiven though I am not sure if the people have forgotten enough to trust them once again with political power. Right now, his son is gunning for a seat in the HoR, so this can be used as a test.
Baba biggie belle does not call the shots in Ogun o!! Ogun is currently and has been since Awo's time no-man's land with different forces vying for "control". This is why you have modern day ogbologbo ogidi ole (serious looter) claiming to be today's Awo.
Ngige is running on Action Congress platform.
As for Anambra.....my prayers are with the people......why anyone will wish to turn the state into a theatre of war in this day and age is beyond me. Is the will to "serve" the people that strong? VOR,
I hear you, thanks for the corrections. I was a bit unsure about Lam Adesina, as I do not quite recall how his era ended. But if I recall he was part of the Tinubu NADECO group that were welcomed like heros all over the southwest. But there has been a governor of Oyo that did enjoy a lot of popularity, the name escapes me now. I am not sure it was even in this "fourth republic".
I think Baba Bigi Belle, actually by default is calling shots in Ogun. Indeed its a state not know to have bigmanisim, but it appears he is muscling his way into power. I mean shebi his daughter is now a member of the senate, how did she manage that? And we are hearing she may even vie for governor? So that will be a test for us to see what happens.
As regards "Awoism" I would agree that we should skip that ole baba and come down to Fashola. But how many Awoists remain in the SW? Any? Just one? Fashola for me has not really been that exceptional, but I have to concede that apparently the state was in such BAD shape that his regular and simple efforts look like amazing majick!!! I mean simply completeing contracts on time nah fantastic news! Resurfacing of roads at Herbert MaCauley road calls for ribbon cutting and fantastic celebration! Boy did that guy destroy that state! I mean refuse collection becomes a celebration?
Its like Fashola is working so hard just to restore the status quo, I hope he gets his second term to finally really show some revolutionary stuff.
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Some responses in blue font. Originally Posted by N.A.R. VOR,
I hear you, thanks for the corrections. I was a bit unsure about Lam Adesina, as I do not quite recall how his era ended. But if I recall he was part of the Tinubu NADECO group that were welcomed like heros all over the southwest. But there has been a governor of Oyo that did enjoy a lot of popularity, the name escapes me now. I am not sure it was even in this "fourth republic".
There was Uncle Bola Ige..or could you be thinking of Olunloyo or Jemibewon?
I think Baba Bigi Belle, actually by default is calling shots in Ogun. Indeed its a state not know to have bigmanisim, but it appears he is muscling his way into power. I mean shebi his daughter is now a member of the senate, how did she manage that? And we are hearing she may even vie for governor? So that will be a test for us to see what happens.
Yes, we'll see what happens. Don't forget that he was able to install his daughter as Senator because he was president then....its another ball game now........too many forces fighting for control of the state and one thing Obj doesn't have is loyalty. Even IBB has more loyal followers than Obj who has been leader of the country twice.
As regards "Awoism" I would agree that we should skip that ole baba and come down to Fashola. But how many Awoists remain in the SW? Any? Just one? Fashola for me has not really been that exceptional, but I have to concede that apparently the state was in such BAD shape that his regular and simple efforts look like amazing majick!!! I mean simply completeing contracts on time nah fantastic news! Resurfacing of roads at Herbert MaCauley road calls for ribbon cutting and fantastic celebration! Boy did that guy destroy that state! I mean refuse collection becomes a celebration?
Ah, leave Fashola o! He has done more in 2+ years than some governors that have been there 6+ years....
Its like Fashola is working so hard just to restore the status quo, I hope he gets his second term to finally really show some revolutionary stuff.
2nd term? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm 
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Originally Posted by VOR 2nd term? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ah, VOR, what's on your mind? 
'E nor go possible?
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Originally Posted by FSU Ojukwu should go and sit down. No wars until further notice. Can't afford to lose my 50 million worth of houses outside Igboland
Spoken like a true Nigerian...you will sacrifice the dignity of your people for your goals it works for me...no war.... 
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Err Auspy Radio roforofo is bringing in quite worrying news.........lets just pray sha that edi o mu won o! (they are not under a spell)  Originally Posted by Auspicious Ah, VOR, what's on your mind?
'E nor go possible?
Auspicious.
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If there is light in the soul, there will be beauty in the person. If there is beauty in the person, there will be harmony in the house.If there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation. If there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world. ~ Chinese proverb
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| Re: Anambra Crisis Could Lead to Another Civil War
Originally Posted by Iye Spoken like a true Nigerian...you will sacrifice the dignity of your people for your goals it works for me...no war....
Read my lips.
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