Mass shooting at Fort Hood

[MrsChocT]

Originally Posted by superego

4 high psychiatric illness risk factors in this guy.

1. MD= risk+++
2. Psychiatrist= Risk+++
3. War vet= Risk+++
4. US environment, food and culture= Risk+++++

The combination is excellent for suicide and murder suicide. The guy had def lost it.

Get your facts straight, this man was born in Virginia. He is as American as apple pie. He is just a nut case that snapped. It had nothing to do with his environment. Now, I am leaning towards mental illness since it has been gathered that he had mused about suicide.

[iamgod]

Originally Posted by superego

4 high psychiatric illness risk factors in this guy.

1. MD= risk+++
2. Psychiatrist= Risk+++
3. War vet= Risk+++
4. US environment, food and culture= Risk+++++

The combination is excellent for suicide and murder suicide. The guy had def lost it.

Hi Super super.....

I believe you fulfill at least two of the four conditions you defined above....I may be wrong o

Meaning at least 50%

i.e

1. MD= risk+++

4. US environment, food and culture= Risk+++++


So what does this make you capable of?

Also, how come I haven't heard anyone yet saying "Those Murderous Americans are at it again"? We should not be profiling Nigerians and Corruption alone......

Enjoy

[Igboamaeze]

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I have wondered how America and Europe find it safe to accomodate certain cultures and tendencies in their soceities and even allow them access to highly sensitive institutions and agencies of their governments. Sometimes it seems to me that the intelligence agencies of the West are not as intelligent and that their culture of an open and free soceity is too liberal and detrimental to their safety and progress.

The moment I saw the identity of the culprit, I know it was all so predictable.
The trouble with the culture of violence is that once it starts, it never ends.
America and Europe must brace up for more Nidal Malik Hasans.

No pussy-footing over it, of all the Moslems in the world the only ones that I can trust are those of Southern Nigeria.

In God I trust...

[Ewuro]

Originally Posted by Igboamaeze

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I have wondered how America and Europe find it safe to accomodate certain cultures and tendencies in their soceities and even allow them access to highly sensitive institutions and agencies of their governments. Sometimes it seems to me that the intelligence agencies of the West are not as intelligent and that their culture of an open and free soceity is too liberal and detrimental to their safety and progress.

The moment I saw the identity of the culprit, I know it was all so predictable.
The trouble with the culture of violence is that once it starts, it never ends.
America and Europe must brace up for more Nidal Malik Hasans.

No pussy-footing over it, of all the Moslems in the world the only ones that I can trust are those of Southern Nigeria.

In God I trust...

Igboamaeze,
I know say you love Southern Nigeria muslims too much especially the Kudirat and the Latifat.
On a more serious note, the strength of the US also contribute to some the weaknesses.
When an American, white, of more than 1000 years link to America, takes a gun and start shooting down school children, it is the same thing, an isolated case.

The freedom that allows the US to accomodate immigrants from all societies also strengthens them also in space research, medicine, physics, arts, sports and politics.

The immigrants Jews, Irish, Italian, french, Spanish, African, Cubans, Indians or Arabs contribute in a great way to American greatness.

Some of our best graduates and lecturers from Nigerian universities are thriving under that freedom. So are gradutes and former lecturers from Ghana, cameroon, pakistani, saudi Arabia etc.

Sometimes we get the negative incindences from immigrant like we have in this shooting incidence. US would deal with it in the best way they could and that does not mean it would not happen again. Of course it shall! Afterall indigenous Americans with axes to grind with the system also do the same.

The freedom, open mind, and adherence to the enshrined principles of justice would ensure that the benefits far outweigh the costs.

The few countries that accomodate immigrants are the most progressive in the world. The story of the USSR and Communist China and Cuba are examples of what happens to a closed society.

A closed system will eventully die. An open system rejuvenates.

[liloldlady]

Originally Posted by lateesha

The suspected dead gunman is identified as Major Nidal Malik Hassan
A psychiatrist
he probably needed his own lithium dem dem
Is there a terrorist twist to this?

Yup.....it appears so

[lateesha]

More sad news
1.The eediot survived the rampage and 2 more of the wounded have died

2. A fellow soldier has reported that the guy was distraught about shipping off to Iraq to kill fellow Muslims

3.Another name sake Akbar Hasan (A Muslim convert) had shot and killed fellow soldiers some time ago because he couldn't bear to see them fight fellow Muslims.

is there an Islamic jihadic twist,we are still watching

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Anike

Can we draw a parallel between this case and the other Virginia Tech mass killing (remember the guy of Asian descent?)? Or the two off-campus shooting incidents over this summer, involving VT students? What is it, if anything, about Virginia Tech that conditions its students to be suicidal. You have to be suicidal to start a shootout on an army base.

May the souls of the departed find repose o.

If there is ever found to be a religious angle to the shootings,then that's just what it is.
The Virginia Tech student did not tell us so,there is no analogy there.
The 12th suicide bomber and the perpetrators of 7/7 told us so.
Suicide bombings and shootings with Muslims,religiously motivated are rampant (use google and read an earful).
CNN this morning was forced to admit that the guy came into the limelight with the military 6 months ago in a chat room regarding his hard core opinions about suicide bombings and that investigation is now ongoing.

[liloldlady]

What a shame, after all that hardwork going to medical school, this is how this man chooses to repay his maker, for giving him the brains and the resources to achieve his dream.

Why would such an intelligent fellow do such a thing

Curiously the people who tried to bomb Night clubbers in London and liverpool airport. in Jun 07 (Thanks to them we can't be dropped off in front of the Airport terminal buildings any more) were Drs too.

High achievers who lost the plot here too

Eight people have now been detained as part of the "fast-moving" inquiry into the car bomb attacks on Glasgow Airport and London. Here is a run down of what is known about the arrested suspects:

First and second arrests
Glasgow airport, afternoon of Saturday June 30:

:: Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla has been named as one of two men arrested at the scene of the Glasgow airport attack. He had been working at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley, near the targeted airport. According to the General Medical Council, Mr Abdulla graduated in Baghdad in 2004 and was working in a supervised NHS role.

:: The other man arrested at the scene was the driver of the Jeep that was rammed into the arrivals hall. He is under armed police guard at the Royal Alexandra Hospital where he is being treated for life-threatening burns which he sustained in the attack.

Third and fourth arrests
M6 in Cheshire, evening of Saturday June 30:

:: Dr Mohammed Asha, 26, of Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, was arrested in a dramatic police swoop on the M6 motorway near Sandbach in Cheshire. Dr Asha qualified as a doctor in Jordan and had been working at North Staffordshire Hospital in Stoke-on-Trent. A rented house thought to be home to Dr Asha, his wife and their young child has been searched as part of the inquiry.

:: The 27-year-old wife of Dr Asha is also among those being held at Paddington Green high-security police station. She was arrested at the same time as her husband.

Fifth arrest
Liverpool Lime Street, evening of Saturday June 30:

:: A 26-year-old doctor from Bangalore in India who works at Halton Hospital in Cheshire was arrested in the Lime Street area of Liverpool on Saturday evening. A colleague told The Muslim News the doctor may have been detained because he was using the mobile phone and internet account of another man who left the UK for Australia a year ago.

Sixth and seventh arrests
Royal Alexandra Hospital, morning of Monday July 2:

:: A 25-year-old man was arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley.

:: A 28-year-old man was also arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital residences. Strathclyde Police would not say whether either of the men were doctors.

Eighth arrest
Brisbane airport, morning of Tuesday July 3:

:: Mohammed Haneef,a 27-year-old registrar from the Gold Coast Hospital, in Queensland, was detained by Australian police when he was due to catch an international flight from Brisbane Airport with a one way ticket. The doctor, who had been based in Liverpool, had started work as a senior house officer at the Gold Coast Hospital on September 4, 2006 after answering an advert in the British Medical Journal in March 2006. He had completed his internship in India.

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Igboamaeze

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I have wondered how America and Europe find it safe to accomodate certain cultures and tendencies in their soceities and even allow them access to highly sensitive institutions and agencies of their governments. Sometimes it seems to me that the intelligence agencies of the West are not as intelligent and that their culture of an open and free soceity is too liberal and detrimental to their safety and progress.

The moment I saw the identity of the culprit, I know it was all so predictable.
The trouble with the culture of violence is that once it starts, it never ends.
America and Europe must brace up for more Nidal Malik Hasans.

No pussy-footing over it, of all the Moslems in the world the only ones that I can trust are those of Southern Nigeria.

In God I trust...

Americas political correctness is the same thing that will ruin them if care is not taken.
How can the US army admit someone whose religion in his holy books tells him not to engage in a war with someone of his own religion
Anyone who doubts me should ask me to quote it.
It is akin to giving a loaded gun to your enemy then inviting him to a game of ludo.

[superego]

Originally Posted by MrsChocT

Get your facts straight, this man was born in Virginia. He is as American as apple pie. He is just a nut case that snapped. It had nothing to do with his environment. Now, I am leaning towards mental illness since it has been gathered that he had mused about suicide.

The more reason.

aMericans born and bred have some of the highest gang rape, suicide, homicide, random shooting, and related crime rates in the entire world.

The culture et al leads to this. Gangster rappers singing trash, prostitutes like Beyonce singing nudity and women worthlessness, etc...their diet, allowance of Homosexuality(anal sex). That's why u have cases like those 1=20 kids all being part of rape, the first Virginia tech shooting, and tons of Christian murderous fanatics like this one for instance.

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by liloldlady

What a shame, after all that hardwork going to medical school, this is how this man chooses to repay his maker, for giving him the brains and the resources to achieve his dream.

Why would such an intelligent fellow do such a thing

Curiously the people who tried to bomb Night clubbers in London and liverpool airport. in Jun 07 (Thanks to them we can't be dropped off in front of the Airport terminal buildings any more) were Drs too.

High achievers who lost the plot here too

Eight people have now been detained as part of the "fast-moving" inquiry into the car bomb attacks on Glasgow Airport and London. Here is a run down of what is known about the arrested suspects:

First and second arrests
Glasgow airport, afternoon of Saturday June 30:

:: Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla has been named as one of two men arrested at the scene of the Glasgow airport attack. He had been working at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley, near the targeted airport. According to the General Medical Council, Mr Abdulla graduated in Baghdad in 2004 and was working in a supervised NHS role.

:: The other man arrested at the scene was the driver of the Jeep that was rammed into the arrivals hall. He is under armed police guard at the Royal Alexandra Hospital where he is being treated for life-threatening burns which he sustained in the attack.

Third and fourth arrests
M6 in Cheshire, evening of Saturday June 30:

:: Dr Mohammed Asha, 26, of Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, was arrested in a dramatic police swoop on the M6 motorway near Sandbach in Cheshire. Dr Asha qualified as a doctor in Jordan and had been working at North Staffordshire Hospital in Stoke-on-Trent. A rented house thought to be home to Dr Asha, his wife and their young child has been searched as part of the inquiry.

:: The 27-year-old wife of Dr Asha is also among those being held at Paddington Green high-security police station. She was arrested at the same time as her husband.

Fifth arrest
Liverpool Lime Street, evening of Saturday June 30:

:: A 26-year-old doctor from Bangalore in India who works at Halton Hospital in Cheshire was arrested in the Lime Street area of Liverpool on Saturday evening. A colleague told The Muslim News the doctor may have been detained because he was using the mobile phone and internet account of another man who left the UK for Australia a year ago.

Sixth and seventh arrests
Royal Alexandra Hospital, morning of Monday July 2:

:: A 25-year-old man was arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley.

:: A 28-year-old man was also arrested at the Royal Alexandra Hospital residences. Strathclyde Police would not say whether either of the men were doctors.

Eighth arrest
Brisbane airport, morning of Tuesday July 3:

:: Mohammed Haneef,a 27-year-old registrar from the Gold Coast Hospital, in Queensland, was detained by Australian police when he was due to catch an international flight from Brisbane Airport with a one way ticket. The doctor, who had been based in Liverpool, had started work as a senior house officer at the Gold Coast Hospital on September 4, 2006 after answering an advert in the British Medical Journal in March 2006. He had completed his internship in India.

There is absolutely no religious angle to these people
They are just regular doctors palpating and auscultating and somehow
Just somehow by a small twist of fate they just happen to be Muslims.

Oh how I hate political correctness

[liloldlady]

Originally Posted by lateesha

Americas political correctness is the same thing that will ruin them if care is not taken.
How can you admit someone whose religion in his holy books tells him not to engage in a war with someone of his own religion
Anyone who doubts me should ask me to quote it.
It is akin to giving a loaded gun to your enemy then inviting him to play ludo with you.

I am human, and I must admit that sometimes out of Anger and frustration, I do have thoughts that are similar to "them v us" ...its easy,can solve the problem in one fell swoop...That is, until I imagine if I were in the "supposedly suspicious" group,...and suddenly it does not feel so good to solve the problem that way, afterall.

Discrimination based on prejudice is a slippery slope....
it could be religion today....next time it could be an assumed propensity based on flimsy urban myths.
No matter how much it angers us, and makes us scared, when things like this happens...its best to keep a cool head, and not allow incidents like this, to throw us back to when people felt it was ok to disrust those different from them.

Many many many people who practice this religion, are law abiding, respectable citizens.....
The baddies are just a tiny fraction...a small minority..sadly they are the newsmakers too.
Just like the vast majority of Nigerians are honest and not into 419.
Lets find a way to solve a problem, not make it worse, and endanger everybody, and their right to a peaceful, progressive life, due to acting out of fear, and tarring everybody with the same fearful brush.

[Ewuro]

Originally Posted by lateesha

How can the US army admit someone whose religion in his holy books tells him not to engage in a war with someone of his own religion
Anyone who doubts me should ask me to quote it.
It is akin to giving a loaded gun to your enemy then inviting him to a game of ludo.

lateesha,
That did not stop Saddam Hussein from invading and occupying kuwait.

[superego]

Originally Posted by iamgod

Hi Super super.....

I believe you fulfill at least two of the four conditions you defined above....I may be wrong o

Meaning at least 50%

i.e

1. MD= risk+++

4. US environment, food and culture= Risk+++++


So what does this make you capable of?

Also, how come I haven't heard anyone yet saying "Those Murderous Americans are at it again"? We should not be profiling Nigerians and Corruption alone......

Enjoy

lol It's great u noticed the US police now fill their daily targets by simply profiling Nigerians accounts and then investigating. Damn shame. Nigerians need geroutof there.

That said, I have several anti-suicide risks.

1. Higher intelligence
2. Spirituality
3. Islam
4. Inner eye
5. Illumination
6. Guidance
7. Superior role for humanity(being your SuperEgo)

So, my scale is totally tipped toward the side where I actually spill-over help reduce other peeps from suicide and murder.

[liloldlady]

Originally Posted by superego

The more reason.

aMericans born and bred have some of the highest gang rape, suicide, homicide, random shooting, and related crime rates in the entire world.

The culture et al leads to this. Gangster rappers singing trash, prostitutes like Beyonce singing nudity and women worthlessness, etc...their diet, allowance of Homosexuality(anal sex). That's why u have cases like those 1=20 kids all being part of rape, the first Virginia tech shooting, and tons of Christian murderous fanatics like this one for instance.

Pray tell, have you used her services as a prostitute before?

[superego]

Originally Posted by lateesha

There is absolutely no religious angle to these people
They are just regular doctors palpating and auscultating and somehow
Just somehow by a small twist of fate they just happen to be Muslims.

Oh how I hate political correctness

Drs are the higher intelligence group. This I bet we agree.

It's sad that some Psycho-ill drs get tipped by the crimes against humanity that the rest of the sheep world don't notice and it adds to their already inherent risks of suicide-murder and they get crazy/psycho and act on it sometimes. Real sad.

But that Drs are high risk psycho is verified, especially psychiatrists...guess it comes with the higher intelligence, understanding and work.

And that drs are some of the smarter folk who hate the war that kils 1000000s innocents is undeniable, like we see the US democratic senator Dr. Howard Deen was the only democrat to oppose the war, and US republican Dr Senator Ron Paul was the only to do same on the Republican side and to continue to bash neocolonial and imperialist policies time after time in the senate.

Hmmm...I think in this sad, mental case, this other connection needs be made. Are Drs the onli smart people left?

[superego]

Originally Posted by liloldlady

Pray tell, have you used her services as a prostitute before?

I don't do prostitutes. So I always reject her service. It's widely available tho. A brief Google image search will show many of her nude prostitutional pictures. And many radio stations have her prostitutional messages. Reference of prostitute indoctrination of kids in aMerica by celebridys

[toksy]

Originally Posted by Liloldlady

Pray tell, have you used her services as a prostitute before?

she's too old................he prefers them young, i.e 10 - 13 yrs old, so long as they have child-bearing hips!

[Iye]

Originally Posted by lateesha

is there an Islamic jihadic twist,we are still watching

It looks more like an overzealous convert.....try to prove his loyalty to the religion

[liloldlady]

Originally Posted by toksy

Originally Posted by Liloldlady


she's too old................he prefers them young, i.e 10 - 13 yrs old, so long as they have child-bearing hips!

what are the chances of child bearing hips at age 10 - 13yrs old ?
lust is lust is lust....sadly.