This man married his OWN daughter so she would be allowed to stay in Britain - and the Home Office knows about it

[salstep]

Originally Posted by Lalakokofefe

Na wa ooo. With the kind of comments so far on this thread, do we really need to wonder why we are where we are as a people? What this people have done is WRONG! and we should be able to stand up and say it! Not make excuses for them. Their actions have implications on every other Nigerian who seeks to go through the same settlement process in the UK!

When a couple who genuinely love each other, marry, and decide to go through the settlement process, then encounter a visa officer who has doubts about the marriage, it is because of incidents like this!

Please, stop making excuses for them, or try to rationalize this.

I do not condone it. But what they have done is no different from the thousands of Nigerians who have come to the UK pretending to flee persecution, all in the name of getting asylum. If every case of settlement in the UK is reviewed, am sure a large proportion will be found to be based on fraud.

No be today e start!

[valteena]

Originally Posted by Lalakokofefe

Na wa ooo. With the kind of comments so far on this thread, do we really need to wonder why we are where we are as a people? What this people have done is WRONG! and we should be able to stand up and say it! Not make excuses for them. Their actions have implications on every other Nigerian who seeks to go through the same settlement process in the UK!

When a couple who genuinely love each other, marry, and decide to go through the settlement process, then encounter a visa officer who has doubts about the marriage, it is because of incidents like this!

Please, stop making excuses for them, or try to rationalize this.

Honestly I weak for my people. We might as well say we understand and rationalize 419, corruption and all the other ills that gives Nigeria a bad name. What is wrong is wrong. Just because many may be guilty of it, does not make it right. Why must we excuse it.

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by liloldlady

Why are you being sexist in your outrage...do you know summin we don't..the grasser could very well not be female ya know ?

Who ever grassed them up....was not interested causing minor inconvenience, or using small arms fire....Nah..they deployed enough Ordnance along the lines of white phosphorus to do some serious harm...they wrote their MP...briefed the Mail...OMG The Mail... who knows they would have leaked it to Nick Griffin next.
Jus in kase...dia file come loss for Home Office.
I smell a very domestic rat here....maybe im papa live in girlfriend wey di girl come reach UK come dey give wahala? Or the girl him ex....This was an insider-insider shafting jobby.

Inspector Lil,

You just cracked the case….

maybe im papa live in girlfriend = twat

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Lalakokofefe

Na wa ooo. With the kind of comments so far on this thread, do we really need to wonder why we are where we are as a people? What these people have done is WRONG! and we should be able to stand up and say it! Not make excuses for them. Their actions have implications on every other Nigerian who seeks to go through the same settlement process in the UK!

When a couple who genuinely love each other, marry, and decide to go through the settlement process, then encounter a visa officer who has doubts about the marriage, it is because of incidents like this!

Please, stop making excuses for them, or try to rationalize this.

When I read some of the comments on this board I shudder to think that these are the same individuals that will have the guts to castigate Ibori, Bode Thomas, Atiku or the other criminals for stealing public funds.
I can't imagine that anybody with any shred of decency would condone or excuse this type of behavior which is both criminal and downright disgusting.
Nigeria is indeed a doomed nation.
Those you would think know better by virtue of their so called exposure are as rotten as the people they condemn.
Lord have mercy.

[Iye]

Originally Posted by salstep

I do not condone it. But what they have done is no different from the thousands of Nigerians who have come to the UK pretending to flee persecution, all in the name of getting asylum. If every case of settlement in the UK is reviewed, am sure a large proportion will be found to be based on fraud.

No be today e start!

Don’t even go there, its so different , the persecution fleeing people – let assume they are crazy but when your parents becomes crazy with you and can’t draw a line to what extend you will go to get this visa is just

Take the instance a man steals your wife is that not bad but can it be compared to the same man sleeping with his sister

[19 guy]

Originally Posted by valteena

Honestly I weak for my people. We might as well say we understand and rationalize 419, corruption and all the other ills that gives Nigeria a bad name. What is wrong is wrong. Just because many may be guilty of it, does not make it right. Why must we excuse it.

My sister , you indeed have a point. But it's hard sometimes, I think it's important we all recognize that life isn't always black and white (the man and his daughter look mixed-race for instance!...lol).

But you and Lala are right, we need to condemn wrong at all times. There's a saying; there's no right way to do wrong and no wrong way to do right.

Nigerians have a terrible reputation across the globe and suffer constantly for it (missing out on so many of the gains the so called global village has brought with it) and we have to start by cleaning up our act in little ways such as this. Let's call a spade a spade even when it's quite uncomfortable for us to personally do so.

[salstep]

Originally Posted by Iye

Don’t even go there, its so different , the persecution fleeing people – let assume they are crazy but when your parents becomes crazy with you and can’t draw a line to what extend you will go to get this visa is just

Take the instance a man steals your wife is that not bad but can it be compared to the same man sleeping with his sister

Abeg all na 419.........They broke the commandment - Thou shall not be caught.

Wait till UKBA try to forcibly deport her now, then tori go change again

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Lalakokofefe

Na wa ooo. With the kind of comments so far on this thread, do we really need to wonder why we are where we are as a people? What these people have done is WRONG! and we should be able to stand up and say it! Not make excuses for them. Their actions have implications on every other Nigerian who seeks to go through the same settlement process in the UK!

When a couple who genuinely love each other, marry, and decide to go through the settlement process, then encounter a visa officer who has doubts about the marriage, it is because of incidents like this!

Please, stop making excuses for them, or try to rationalize this.

Aye Brotherman Lala, well said!

But please 'remember not to forget' those of us who have condemned it.

Regards,

Auspicious.

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by liloldlady

Haba Lateesha...You mean you have acclimatised so well, that you are now unable to accept that because a lot of immigration rules are made specifically with a view to keep us out....it does not deserve moral authority, even if we give it grudging legal authority, and therefore when possible such rules are circumvented?
I will never ever, hold it against any of my brethren, to wangle his way in...so long as he is not doing it with a view to trafficking anybody for nefarious activities.

Is it not US's past skewed immigration policies against non-whites, that they are trying to rectify with the visa lottery scheme?

My dear just gbuo this view that I'm seeing.
This is just the lowest of the low.
A man marries his own daughter
holds hands with her and takes a picture
probably kissed her when the minister says "you may kiss the bride"
Nne does that not give you the heebie jeebies.
Are these people from under a rock that they must go to Britain ( and wash dishes and pack shait) at all costs?
How low can people go just to travel.
IMHO,this is the lowest any father can go
There are just some lines that people shouldn't cross
My father couldn't conceive such an idea ever and even if he were,I could never marry him.
It is wrong
It is wrong
It is wrong
slice it anyway my dear
It is yucky yuck yuck
UK is not a do or die


when Rose and exponent come into this thread now and begin to air their opinions I hope those cheering this couple on won't say a word.
I can't believe I called a man and his daughter a couple
Oh Lord this is the worst kind of desperation ever.(death to IBB and Maryam)
If he wanted to get his daughter in the UK by all means was there no man he could organize for his daughter?

Let them go ahead and make babies too

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by 19 guy

You mean like Adokiye did Fortune Chukwudi?

19 Guy,

Adokiye and Fortune Chukwudi wahala is fundamentally different from this….. one is about institutionalised cheating by Nigeria Football Federation fielding fully grown men with bear bear to cheat against teenage Oyinbo Children. The bogus marriage is about securing an ordinary family future……

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by valteena

Honestly I weak for my people. We might as well say we understand and rationalize 419, corruption and all the other ills that gives Nigeria a bad name. What is wrong is wrong. Just because many may be guilty of it, does not make it right. Why must we excuse it.

I told a friend living in Nigeria the other day that the average Nigerian has a criminal mind and she was outraged but by the time we got through with the discussion, she agreed with me.
We all wondered why Ibori and Bode George had supporters and aso ebi wearers asking for their immediate release.
I wonder what some of these people did to legalize their way in these foreign lands


Oh God let Exponent not come across this thread

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

19 Guy,

Adokiye and Fortune Chukwudi wahala is fundamentally different from this….. one is about institutionalised cheating by Nigeria Football Federation fielding fully grown men with bear bear to cheat against teenage Oyinbo Children. The bogus marriage is about securing an ordinary family future……

Chei BC
what is 419 then?
aren't they just tryng to build themselves a befitting house back home and take care of their aged mothers?

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by valteena

Honestly I weak for my people. We might as well say we understand and rationalize 419, corruption and all the other ills that gives Nigeria a bad name. What is wrong is wrong. Just because many may be guilty of it, does not make it right. Why must we excuse it.

Lalakokofefe, Valteena and Lateesha….. as the three of you are holier than holy, please tell us how you all became citizens of your adopted countries (no lie, I know none of you 3 was born in UK or US)?.

[M. Akosa]

Wow !!! This one is really very bad.

I am just wondering about the whereabouts of the mother of this lady.
If she has her sanity intact, how could she keep quiet all these years, and not ensure that her UK citizen baby daddy includes her daughter's name on his UK passport, while their daughter was still under the age of 18 ?

It is the responsibilty of every woman to ensure that their children are protected and well provided for. Not to open nyash and born for every Tom, Dick and Harry that comes to Nigeria from overseas, and then later be subjecting their poor children, like in this case, through perverse and dysfunctional arrangements like this.

Now the whole family, including the said "real husband of this lady" back home in Nigeria are all really sick and disgusting.

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lalakokofefe, Valteena and Lateesha….. as the three of you are holier than holy, please tell us how you all became citizens of your adopted countries (no lie, I know non of you were born in UK or US)?.

bill I hope you read my response

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by lateesha

Chei BC
what is 419 then?
aren't they just tryng to build themselves a befitting house back home and take care of their aged mothers?

Lateesha,

Nigeria Government fully participated in this fraud by knowingly providing the overage players fake declaration of age/passport.

The bogus marriage…. maybe a caring father trying to remove his daughter from domestic violence/abusive husband in Nigeria.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lalakokofefe, Valteena and Lateesha….. as the three of you are holier than holy, please tell us how you all became citizens of your adopted countries (no lie, I know non of you were born in UK or US)?.

Let me help:

1. Lalakokofefe: Through the help of an Ilesa (Osun State) based Babalawo's "Igbe" (local flying broom), he was able to (NOT ONLY) fly across the Atlantic to Ilu Oyinbo, but also have the folks at the Immigration look and smile like Mugus as he crossed the counter into the United States.

2. Valteena: The sweet-talking Lady that she is, she was able to cajole Leo Blair (Tony's young son, who finds the delectable Val so attractive!) to convince his father to expedite action on her papers so she could enter Her Majesty's Country with ease and alacrity. Of course, Leo never got to hook up with Val.

3. Lateesha: One day, during the Abacha era, a woman ran wildly into the U.S. Embassy along "Louis Farrakhan Crescent" in Lagos wearing only her Buba and Shimmy, holding her wrapper in hand and bare-foot. She had terrifyingly dramatic look in her face. Sweating, she shouted: "They want to killey me oooo, they have killed me! Take me to Tessas naw-naw!"

And they obeyed. To date, nobody knows what happened.

Suffice to say, she is doing well for herself in Tessas.

Her favorite hobby remains cooking puff-puff in her spare time.

Auspicious.

[Lalakokofefe]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lalakokofefe, Valteena and Lateesha….. as the three of you are holier than holy, please tell us how you all became citizens of your adopted countries (no lie, I know none of you 3 was born in UK or US)?.

Bill, na wa ooo. You mean condition bad reach so tey a man go take im daughter to registry and marry her??? Just because he wants to "secure her future" as you say.... ehn? And you really don't see this as out-rightly condemnable?

What kind of example is he laying for his daughter?

Mr man, this is not about being holier than thou. If you are attempting to justify or rationalize this, how then can we condemn the IBBs and the Iboris?

Let me make it simple for you. It is about having principles! This man who married his daughter, has no principles!

The man was already a UK national. There are legitimate immigration channels for bringing over relatives. If your relatives do not qualify based on the rules, then so be it. Attempting to circumvent the law is not the solution.

Anyway.... maybe i am the one with the weird reasoning.

[lateesha]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lateesha,

Nigeria Government fully participated in this fraud by knowingly providing the overage players fake declaration of age/passport.

The bogus marriage…. maybe a caring father trying to remove his daughter from domestic violence/abusive husband in Nigeria.

Very soon he'll divorce her and go and marry his grand daughter to bring her over
Oh yes
He'd started on a path of no return
and when Britain legalizes gay marriage (if they haven't) he'll divorce his granddaughter,turn gayish abi gayoid and go and marry his son in law

[Lalakokofefe]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

Lateesha,

Nigeria Government fully participated in this fraud by knowingly providing the overage players fake declaration of age/passport.

So, lets encourage the couple on then! Its not their fault. The Nigerian government pushed them to it, abi?

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

The bogus marriage…. maybe a caring father trying to remove his daughter from domestic violence/abusive husband in Nigeria.

Right .... i see. Makes sense now!