Daddies, Daughters and Sexual Relationships

[Auspicious]

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Well they said Morgan Freeman and daughter did it..



SOURCE: PEREZHILTON.COM

[Rose]

Lots of folks are turning against Morgan over this story. She's the daughter of Morgan's stepdaughter from his previous marriage. I heard he raised her with his soon-to-be-exwife from a very young age. If this is true he's been grooming her for some time. When the story first broke, I heard she went to Morgan's wife (@10 years ago) and told her he plied her with liquor and tried to pull something with her and he agreed never to bother the girl again. So technically he's no blood relative but should feel like one. I'm wondering if he tried something with the stepdaughter as well. If that's the case I do not see how she or her mother would allow him to take custody of her to raise with another woman. He's starting to sicken me.

[agbonizuanghwe]

Sheesh, not Morgan Freeman!

What would a girl that age find attactive in the stale breath of an ageing lothario? He could not even buy her a decent hairdo!

[Unregistre]

Originally Posted by Dewdrops

It takes two to raise a child darling. Daddies can change diapers, feed and bathe children too because mommy works. Besides, daddy has to make sure he is close to the home to make sure I am NOT the pedophile in the house. Since woman can also molest little boys. We just have to ensure that we are acting in the best interest of the children ALWAYS....and it take 2 people in a marriage to do that.

Really!!! So women are capable of this insanity? thought it was an insanity associated with just the male chromosome the way you ladies are puting it. This puts father and mother on the same pedestrian of not trusting each other w.r.t. their children which is the origin of another insanity... wonder where it ends.

Originally Posted by Dewdrops

You might not want a 'career' woman according to you...but in this day and age where women are also pedophiles...it is in your best interest to make sure your sons/daughters are not being molested by your wife/househelps too. If you do not help to take care of your children, how would you find out?

You will be surprised what some men do darling. Of course it is okay for a man to give his daughter a bath......just saying that if he becomes pre-occupied with such a thing or my little girl always insists that her dad gives her a bath(and he agrees and does not want to share the chore)....I would really be suspicious. Just like if my little girl/boy always insists I give her/him a bath and never my husband....don't you think the man should raise an eyebrow? As a man, I would feel left out. But I would also want to satisfy my curiosity that I was not doing something 'wrong' she/he did not like. Children usually love one parent more than the other for one reason or the other....and that is fine with me. I just want to make sure that it does not have to do with the exposure to 'sick' games....of which this child has taken a liking to.

Nope; I would be one lucky happy dude; that means one less problem to worry about, especially at that time of the night, what a good excuse not to go near the child by that time of the night, he/she prefers the mother anyway, so why force it?

[Rose]

Chynna Phillips recalls learning about sister Mackenzie Phillips' affair with father, John Phillips
BY Cristina Everett
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, September 23rd 2009

While the public is now learning of Mackenzie Phillips' incestuous affair with her father, Mamas and the Papas singer John Phillips, the former child star's half-sister recalls first learning of the shocking news 12 years ago.

In the new issue of Us Weekly, Chynna Phillips remembers getting a call from her famous sibling in 1997 – 11 years after the affair had ended – while she was between flights at New York's LaGuardia Airport.

"She said, 'I don't know why, but I just really felt the need to call you and tell you something that I think you need to know,'" Chynna said. "And she went on to tell me that she had had an incestuous relationship with our dad for about 10 years.

"Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," the singer added. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?"

During the time of the affair, John was married to his third wife, model Genevieve Waïte.

In addition to detailing the affair in her new memoir, "High on Arrival," out Wednesday, Mackenzie, 49, goes on to reveal that it was her father who introduced her to the drug abuse she has battled for decades.

In an interview with Oprah Winfrey airing Wednesday, the actress paints a picture of her father helping her shoot up drugs for the first time.

"I remember going into my room, I was crouched on the floor. ... He put the needle in my arm and put the plunger in and he missed," she says in a promotional video for the Oprah appearance. "He missed the vein and my whole arm went numb."

Chynna added, "After long nights of heroin use, she's claiming that she once woke up and that my father was on top of her having sex with her. Was he actually raping her? I don't know. Do I believe that they had an incestuous relationship and that it went on for 10 years? Yes."

After Mackenzie was fired from her ‘80s sitcom, "One Day at a Time," she and her father entered rehab together. John died in 2001.

Chynna, of the hit 1990s group Wilson Phillips, says that the shocking news of her father and half-sister sent her into "a deep, deep sadness and depression for about 10 days. A part of me died when I found out."

[peterosa]

Is all madness of the century.

[chiagozie]

Originally Posted by Ph3y

You think eight year old is small?

There was this story i heard. A mother discovered that her baby would stop crying anytime this uncle took her to his room. So anytime the baby started crying she would just give her to uncle to pacify.....She almost died the day she found out that uncle was pacifying her baby's by putting his penis in the baby mouth..........Can you beat that?

crazy world

[sweetmadam]

I think we should just let sleeping dogs lie. Telling a daughter to treat her dad like other men is very disrespectful to the man. If as a father ,i got to discover that my WIFE told my daughter something like that, i would be furious. It's like telling your daughter something like 'mummy is materialistic or loose' just because you think most women are!

If you thought so of your man, you shouldn't have married him in the first place. Give the man some respect as long as he hasn't given any reason to do otherwise. Haba!!

I am pretty sure that the percentage of men with such perverted tendencies is extremely low.
My view on this does not hold true for step-fathers as that is a different ball game entirely!



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[lateesha]

Abomination of the highest order.

[OyinB69]

Originally Posted by Mutti

I am raising this issue in this forum because I think it concerns us women more but the men are welcome to comment too.

A mother narrated how she came upon her husband in his study with his tongue deep in the throat of his 16 year old daughter. He insisted that nothing more than the deep french kissing had gone on betwen them but that did not stop her from taking steps to check with a doctor who confirmed that her daughter the last of three children 2 boys and one girl was till 'intact'

Daughter has always been a serious daddy's girl and they had long conversations for as long as mummy could remember. She never saw anything wrong with and why should she? After this is his daughter! Daughter was the quiet type showing more interest in books than interactions with others her age or even TV so it was easy to understand that she did not know that daddy had just crossed a line. His explanation was that she looked so much like mum at that age he just could not resist. I wonder how much further he would have gone, given the right conditions.

Anyway there are plenty of stories out there of daddies getting to know their girls in this special way. My question is at what point do we tell our girls that daddy is one of the men not allowed certain liberties with her and her body? Or do we just keep quiet trusting that our beloved can never be like that?

Regardless of who it is, parents need to teach their children (particularly daughters) how to be responsible for their own safety. It's not about Daddy, Uncle, Teacher, or Boyfriend anymore. It is about YOU. How you take precautions in different situations. How you take measures to protect yourself and not leave yourself vulnerable. How you act with sense so that someone wont take advantage of you. Learning to fight and defend yourself because some men simply do not understand "NO!" (not to even mention the fact that males are naturally stronger than females).

This responsibility of safety falls directly on the parents until the child reaches the age where they can handle it themselves.

We live in a dangerous age, whether in Nigeria/Africa or western countries, where children cannot even walk to a bus stop visible from their house and not face irreparable damage. At least people in western countries talk about it and there is actual punishment for the perpetrator. Africa needs to raise that same standard.

In my book, for situations that involve male family members sexually abusing younger/innocent female family members (children), I would cut that d!ck off, including the b@lls. As long as there's proof and conclusive evidence. I'd spend time asking questions later.

Why?

Before some of these men do it within the home, they've already done it outside. And a man that can do it once, will do it again. And you don't just get a man that will jump on a little girl to rape her. It's a graduation that begins with a touch... a kiss... with one child that leads to sex with the same (or a different) child.

It goes back to the "1 in every 4" statistic. I'd rather take such drastic measures to ensure he's never able to do it again.

One particular situation that bothers me is with a little girl in my church and one of church's male leaders. Naturally I'm quick to suspect men of such things (like you can't already tell ), so I haven't spoken about it yet. But he loves to pick her up, have her in his lap, rock her back and forth, and cuddle her to sleep. EVERY. SINGLE. SUNDAY. Yes, her father does the same. Yes, some of the girls/women do the same. But a 2yr old should not be learning a lesson like that at such a tender age from a man. Not only is it not becoming but how do you teach her to beware of such things when you have already laid the foundation for it?

[Oluwato]

Originally Posted by OyinB69

One particular situation that bothers me is with a little girl in my church and one of church's male leaders. Naturally I'm quick to suspect men of such things (like you can't already tell ), so I haven't spoken about it yet. But he loves to pick her up, have her in his lap, rock her back and forth, and cuddle her to sleep. EVERY. SINGLE. SUNDAY. Yes, her father does the same. Yes, some of the girls/women do the same. But a 2yr old should not be learning a lesson like that at such a tender age from a man. Not only is it not becoming but how do you teach her to beware of such things when you have already laid the foundation for it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Does your church have a Nursery? Is this going on during the main service?

[Austin]

Originally Posted by 2plus2

My dear, I watch my daughter like a hawk. I thaught her a mantra her body is the temple of god and no one is allowed to make her feel uncomfortable or do anthing she knows is wrong. I then defined the places no one has a right to touch. We all know those places. Infact, when she started swimming she gave the swimming coach at Ikoyi club one hard slap becuase he lifted her up by touching her bottom onto the ledge. He has never done that again, but I was sooooo proud that she was not sacred to do that. Unfortunately for me, she has a real african buttom and as you know all those pervy men will be ogling her. Have drummed it into her head that no one is allowed to smack, pinch or touch her bum. She should wack the person, then start screaming at the top of her lungs. Sad thing is my daughter is 5 years. I worry about the skills I am having to impart to her given the pervy nature of the community we are in. Trust me, some of the men do not know or understand the clear boundaries of what is acceptable behaviour and what is not acceptable.

Sister,
You should really be ashamed of yourself. Thats all I have to say to you. It is because of people like you that I do pray. And my prayers are never too complicated, like, "Lord, lead me not into temptation". Or the Prison Break prayer, "Lord, help me to go through this like a man." For truth is, I don't know how I would react in such situation. I have worked the scenario out in my head so many times and each time I end up praying for God's help. And so far God has never disappointed me. 3 times in my life, I have been slapped unjustly by girls and the three times I have managed to go through it like a man.
How dare you train up you pre-teenage girl, or even boy for that matter, for violence and still be proud of it? How dare you??

[Austin]

France dropped incest from the penal code under Napoleon – in 1810. So did Belgium, where the same happened since it was under French rule at the time. In the Netherlands consensual incest is no longer prosecuted and there the incest laws were also repealed 200 years ago. Sweden is the only country in Europe which allows marriage between siblings who share a parent.
In Japan, the Civil Code of Japan restrict marriages of its members, but incest is not a crime. Incest law was abolished in 1881.
In Israel, incest between adults (of the age of 18 years and above) is not a crime; incestuous relations with a person under the age of 18 years are prohibited and punished by law.
In the US incest is a crime. However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989, Ohio only targets parental figures, and New Jersy does not apply any penalties to anyone over the age of 18.
Now you know where to move to if you intend committing incest.....
Source: http://www.teenhut.net/teen-sexualit...s-world-2.html

And while you are at it,
Without the moral judgement (and I personally do not agree with it) incest itself has been decriminalised in various European countries -" France in 1810, then Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Portugal. It is also legal in Turkey, Brazil and Japan. In Britain, by contrast, the law banning incest was extended to cover step-siblings in 2002. It remains illegal elsewhere, including Germany" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/…

Actually Sweden is the only country in Europe which allows marriage between siblings who share a parent. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/642433…
Source: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...2072256AAmdK1U

Now, we are living in a more or less knowledge based world, hence it is important to stress to the less gifted that INCEST was the refrence up there and not ABUSE, MOLLESTATION and all those sorts of things, which are essentially crimes.

[Austin]

Now to the main issue. Dad or mum or siblings shagging each other to me just don't seem right. But where they are just kids and clearly unaware of the implications of what they are doing I will give the culprits serious education, without handing them over to the police. And I mean serious and thorough education, not the type that says that men are pigs or that their bodies are some lousy temples and all that sort of gabbage.

Families don't need to sleep with each other for many reasons which include the fact that
- First and foremost, there are way so many people here on earth to choose and pick from
- Sex and marriage are part of the tools of socialisation and could therefore give greater benefit, if done outside the immediate social circle
- We all know the biological/genetical implications of in-breeding don't we?
- And we all know the proper reaction to criminal activities, I guess. Like my father taught me, if it is gazetted as a crime, then for God's sake avoid it, or else you'll loose your freedom and many others of your human rights.
- Then sex is addictive and can give many other hangovers/side effects, so people have to make sure they are adults, who can better manage their emotions, before engaging in it. And it is definitely better to ship all the side effects to the perfect strangers and not family members.
- And where a parent is treating him/herself to his/her child/ren; that is tantamont to taking advantage of such a child. And it is again better to take advantage of outsiders not insiders.
- Besides, it is also a breach of trust and care by the parent to the child/ren; which is a crime and punishable by law. And punishing the parent, will further destroy the family.
- And where the child/ren is/are an outsider/s, then it is still a breach of trust and care by an adult to a minor and therefore a crime punishable by law. And whereas the crime is directed at an outsider, the punishmment will harm the immediate family, hence it is senseless.
-Anybody who engages in this kind of senseless activity must either be a psychiatric, unable to recognise what is good or bad for him/herself and immediate family.
- Such a psychiatric case should either be locked up or have his/her head examined or both.
- Any child who willingly engage in such self-destructive activity too, should have his/her head examined for proper treatment, because such a head must have somehow been polluted.

My 2 cents, but I still dey come.